China: “Remove all VPNs”

Apple: “Sure thing”

China: “…and podcast apps”

Apple: “Can do boss!”

China: “…and also hand over all iCloud data for our citizens”

Apple: “I mean why wouldn’t we? Here you go!”

EU: “Allow alternate app stores, and do it fairly”

Apple: “Ahhh hell no! This is so unfair you guys are bullies! Malware! Privacy! We have standards! Unlike you we care about our users!”

Fuck #Apple

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FUCK APPLE

Steve Jobs himself gave a bad start for Apple. Like most of us he believed in this scam called Intelectual Property and went a step too far in protecting it. I also believed in intelectual property back then, but never liked the fascist extra step, and so never used Apple.

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who gives a shit about what EU wants

It's challenging Apple's walled garden, so that's A-ok in my book.

Apple does if they want to sell stuff in the EU. They know complaining publicly gets them nowhere in China so they don't.

If the EU was a totalitarian one party state they'd probably just shut up and comply (or work via. back channels).

and what will the EU use if they ban Apple products? Oh, here the answer

They won't ban apple products, an agreement will be reached somehow (in or out of court) and apple will comply.

The EU is too big a market to ignore for apple, their primary objective is to make money.

Even if they did ban apple there are plenty of other companies selling overpriced consumer hardware who are willing to bend the knee to the EU.

All smartphone manufacturers are controlled by the US. Nokia is dead (as a smartphone manufacturer), Samsung and Huawei are dependent on the US. European production is being moved to the US. EU can only turn up their noses as far as they are allowed to.

You are arguing against a point I didn't make, have a good day mate 👋

i used to own a blackview phone, 100% chinese brand... yeah i mustn't forget i've got a chinese "senior" phone coming in the post soon, as i'm deprecating my mobile to banking only duty, it's chinese make, there is that wapoo brand and a bunch of other chinese cell phone/smart phone manufacturers that have a substantial position in many countries, you especially see them in southern/eastern europe a lot

like in bulgaria, for example, there is big business in direct importing of products from china, mostly tech but a lot of more utility household things, here in portugal there is a brand "mitsai" which does a bunch of budget gear, like i had a HD monitor they made, was very cheap, and a motor-driven standing desk

they aren't dominant, in the west, but they are very visible everywhere on the margins and i imagine many of these brands are all over the place in south america and africa and asia

All Chinese and Indian smartphones are powered by Snapdragon and MediaTek platforms. It doesn't matter what they're called, they're software and hardware by fact an American product.

i'm pretty sure that the chinese are gonna recognise the problem there

Complaining publicly actually does work in China, just not for American companies.

Who does it work for? Don't think It went that well for Jack Ma or for H&M when they looked into forced labor in China.

Same thing could be said about the USA in general.

They are depending on China, not on the EU.

Big Tech companies are all the same

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Apple is total scum.

China: “Change AirDrop settings so citizens cannot circumvent our social media censorship during lockdown protests.”

Apple: “Right away, boss!”

Don’t forget about that one 🙄

Agreed