We must defend our own privacy if we expect to have any. We must come together and create systems which allow anonymous transactions to take place. People have been defending their own privacy for centuries with whispers, darkness, envelopes, closed doors, secret handshakes, and couriers. The technologies of the past did not allow for strong privacy, but electronic technologies do.

We the Cypherpunks are dedicated to building anonymous systems. We are defending our privacy with cryptography, with anonymous mail forwarding systems, with digital signatures, and with electronic money.

Cypherpunks write code.

- A cypherpunk's manifesto, 1993

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Man I sure do wish bitcoin had anonymous transactions…

It does.

āš”ļø + Nuts /ecash

I don’t directly relate either one of those two to being directly bitcoin(same with liquid).

Although they do help.

Onchain (bitcoin)

Bitcoin Lightning (solves speed issue)

Lightning Nuts / ecash (solves privacy issue)

Thank you for correctly explaining why I think like I do.

Only one of those happens on chain. Bitcoin!

Through the loop and back on chain = private coins? You complain about a problem and you refuse to use the solution...Might as well sell me your sats and go buy XMR.

I did not complain about n e thing.

I simply stated my opinion.

Nor have I said I haven’t/won’t used them.

Why jump though so many hoops (L2,L3,etc) when the main chain should take care of these issue.

Like you said Monero can do this but Bitcoin itself can’t.

Maybe it’s best that way. Think about it …

Layers.

Imagine if bullet proof glass didn't have LAYERS...

Toilet paper has layers, what’s your point?

Shit can still get on your fingers.

If you don’t get it, I don’t have time to explain. šŸ˜‚

Trust me I get it

If you don’t believe me or don’t get it, I don’t have the time to convince you -

Satoshi Nakamoto

What if you don't want your privacy cucked by custodians? AKA holding your nuts

Louder for the ones in the back watching shitcoin graphs.

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I should be able to whisper in your ear even if you are a thousand miles away.