#asknostr
Any builders/maintainers care to share your thoughts on working for friends or family vs your standard customers?
I feel like producing for friends and family is ideal in a way, but it makes the tough conversations that are sometimes needed more difficult.
I finished a small landing+stairs for a lady I have known most of my life. It went pretty smoothly, but the whole time I was fearing some hiccup I’d have to communicate and/or upcharge… which I’ve had to do in the past. 
After planning and initial discussion. Make a walk through of expenses (materials and cost of your time) sometimes it helps to have them buy the material based on your material list
Planning is always paramount
Yeah it's a challenge usually - but if you can cover the costs then labour can be under-charged. Depends on who you're dealing with really.
At the end of the day true business is about relationships -
Good work on those stairs too.
There's toxic f&f and non toxic. i learned the hard way to cut the toxic ones out asap; they tend to want everything for free++ and don't understand boundaries and a bit commie.
Haha I’ve met one or two..
#proofofwork
Just be direct and honest with them, as you have been.
