In the real world it's stupid to do nothing while your neighbor – who has said they are going to murder you for decades, repeatedly funds violence against you, and recently launched the biggest missile attack in human history against you – enriches uranium to as high as 80% in an obvious attempt to build nuclear weapons to murder you with.
Libertarians are dumb enough about geopolitics and war to be practically suicidal.
Yeah, because Iran had its nuclear facilities deep inside the mountains for peaceful research. 😂 Peter, some people just refuse to "read the room". I've been told a few days ago in here, by a "big name", that "Death to Israel/America/..." it's the same like saying "Damn you Israel/America/...". 🤦
Looks like the mossad has not only trump by the balls but you too. Or you're just a random stupid american as usual.
No he's not dumb.
I know him well and he is associated with mossad.
I blame Netflix and all the modern action-drama TV shows with a plot-twist where the bad guy turns out not to be the main bad guy - who is actually some insider that appeared to be a good guy for most of the show.
Sometimes the person who screams "Death to
we fucked that country over. of course they are mad about it. look at what iran was like under their democratically elected government. then look at what america did to fuck those people over and install a brutal dictator which has a direct path to their current situation.
actions have consequences. our running around the middle east and latin america installing our chosen government which oppressed the local population for the benefit of the west has consequences.
people need to wake the fuck up and understand who the good guys and bad guys are in the story.
They hate you because Islam is a viking-like missionary religion. It has nothing to do with what you did or did not do. Search for "Dar al-Harb" and "Dar al-Islam". The best we can do is promote separation of church/mosque and state, so the religious texts won't convert into political actions.
Democratically elected government? When? A government that oppresses free-speach and throws women to prison for not covering their hair is not democratic in any way, it's a majority tyranny.
Latin America is a totally different story. I know very little about latin America so I won't comment on that - but it's a completely different fight. Don't confuse the two.
They had free speech and women weren't required to cover their hair. Do a little reading my friend.
"The United States, along with the UK, played a significant role in installing Shah Mohammad Reza Pahlavi as the ruler of Iran in 1953. This was achieved through a US-led coup d'état that overthrew the democratically elected Prime Minister Mohammad Mosaddegh. The coup, code-named Operation Ajax, was driven by Western fears of Soviet influence in Iran, particularly due to Iran's strategic location and oil wealth."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1953_Iranian_coup_d%27%C3%A9tat
Yeah, they preferred a pro-west dictator on a pro-soviet would-be dictator.
Also, this happened 72 years ago, so even if it still makes a lot of Iranians today feel resentment for the west, letting the IRGC have nukes is absolute insanity.
America set them on a path 72 years ago, by overthrowing a peaceful, democratic government that did not impose any harsh rules/restrictions on its people.
It replaced that government with a brutal dictator that bent the knee to america, setting it on the path they ended up on today.
Come on man, try to put a little effort in.
If you justify screaming "Death to America" while running your country as a theocratic regime, taking multiple Arab countries hostage via proxy terror organizations and working on nuclear bombs and ballistic missiles all the way to Europe - only because of injustice that occured to you 72 years ago, then you are insane.
This would be like Israelis parading and shouting "Death to Germany" and "Death to Britain".
People shouting words is very different than the actual death and destruction America has brought to the middle east and latin america over the last 100 years.
Actions > words
Perhaps listen to the words of a bitcoiner and someone who is much better versed in these matters than you or I:
They found out.
Words have consequences too.
"It’s insane how many Americans are cheering on yet another war.
How many times do you need to be lied to? Gulf War I, Afghanistan, Gulf War II… Every time you swallow the propaganda, it ends in blood, failure, and profit for someone else.
When will you finally learn?"
I’m not cheering on another war.
My position has always been we should leave this to Israel.
It’s factual, however, that Iran talked a lot of smack, and then found out.
History wasn’t written by the losers.
has nothing to do with talking smack. this is just a continuation of empire building, america is a country that gets itchy after a few years without going to war/fucking with someone. it cannot stand peace.
read nostr:nprofile1qyfhwumn8ghj7ctvvahjuat50phjummwv5q32amnwvaz7tm9v3jkutnwdaehgu3wd3skueqqyzu7we2xhgry2mknq8v7227yn7jguu9xhu3g90n6rtnjj3mpyq3ackdvvhl excellent post. of course iran and most of the middle east hates america. we have fucked up generations there.
Almost 20 years ago and nothing has changed and everything this man said has been proven true over and over again.
“We bomb them endlessly and then wonder why they are mad at us.”
It’s funny, I’ve had a few friends and family members who are legitimately concerned now that we could be in danger. That “what if we get bombed?”
And all I can think is that entire generations in the Middle East have grown up with this fear as a permanent part of their lives. They never knew a time, in a dozen countries, in which they didn’t have to wonder “what if we get bombed?”
What do you think that does to a culture? What do you think that does to their view of the west and Israel? After 50 years how could you *not* think that the US deserved to be destroyed? What else do they even know?
None of this is confusing. These are the stupidly obvious and self evident results of the bullshit our govts have been engaged in.
https://blossom.primal.net/7d794799b5234ce5fd4bb1e6e1ccff11928b355c9b7189bad51454dc1bcc3488.mp4
I agree with all of your points.
Iran did in fact FA, and also, consequently FO, however.
I can hate the local mayor all my life and avoid jail. I could also choose to raise my head up and start “wars” with him and end up on the wrong side of his stick.
Iran made a choice, and now they face the consequences.
I voted for ending all the forever wars, and I hope that comes to pass. I’m willing to see if this is a speed bump. I know screeching early has never worked out for libs re:rogue judges making unconstitutional decisions because of TDS.
I don’t care what Iran thinks of the US, literally don’t. Do you think they would have loved us if we showed restraint and not bombed when Israel attacked? The die is cast because of all your points.
You can't vote to get out of forever wars and putting in a republican thinking you'll get out of forever wars is plainly retarded based on the last 30 years.
Trump could have pulled out of Afghanistan and chose not to. Biden did, albeit with terrible execution. Trump's handpicked DNI (and supporting cast) have all said that Iran not only doesn't have a nuclear weapon, but also isn't developing one, nor has it even authorized the funding for it. Trump decided (aka Bibi told him) to ignore American intelligence and instead listen to Israel's intelligence.
In my lifetime, republicans have started every "forever war" and democrats have ended them. I don't think this a left vs. right thing though those are the facts. The 0.01% that rule this country (left and right) love the forever wars. They love the power it gives them, they love that it opens up many new avenues for corruption, they love taking away rights of the citizenry.
TDS has nothing to do with it. I think the real TDS is believing that this man who has largely been a grifter his whole life with no morals would somehow lose his completely self serving persona in an effort to serve the American ppl.
Biden would have forced me into a medical procedure against my will and ended my career for civil disobedience if not for the separation of powers.
So *not* voting for a regime change would be the retarded vote, in my opinion.
Harris can be an epic disaster that I would *never* vote for AND I can vote Trump and hope he doesn’t get into forever wars.
TDS is always a factor, see the justice system and the media for all the evidence you need.
A medical procedure? WTF are you talking about, like an abortion or something?
If you thought trump, a narcissistic lifelong selfish grifter was going to change something (after you already had 4 years of experience), you were just dumb and had/have TDS.
I, by no means, was a fan of Kamala. I sat this one out. Because both choices were absolutely atrocious.
How’s that working out for you?
Trump is still your president.
Congratulations!
Its working out poorly. A fucking obese moron grifter is the president.
Do you think voting for him makes it better? Does that help you sleep better at night?
If you have 12 minutes, I suggest you watch this, I found it quite informative and it makes it easier for me to deal with whoever is in charge because these are just common things for the end of an empire
Also, you didn't elaborate on the medical procedure Biden tried to force upon you.
I'm guessing (but could be totally wrong) you're referring to the vaccines that donald trump developed under operation warp speed where he subsidized the entire cost of production and waived all liability of the pharmaceutical companies who made them?
Most TDS morons conveniently 'forget' that part. Or maybe during the indoctrination sessions they wipe that from the memory?
Yes, the vaccine mandate under Biden that the Supreme Court ruled unconstitutional.
Trump enacted OWS to get the vaccines and all the things you said are likely true, no denial here.
Biden unlawfully tried to mandate me out of a job, also undeniable.
I’m willing to concede Trump makes mistakes. Biden was a disaster.
without trump there would have been no vaccines. he has literally said that. only he could have done it, it was so amazing so great so powerful so beautiful, only he could have done it.
or wait, is that him lying?
One president overreaches and mandates a thing, and you blame the president who brought you the thing.
I blame the guy who actually did the thing I’m against.
We are not the same.
If you look hard enough, you’ll see the TDS.
Also, it's not Trump's fault the vaccines didn't work.
COVID is a real disease, albeit not a serious threat to the vast majority of the population. Trying to develop vaccines for the vulnerable was reasonable.
There's probably things Trump should have done differently there. But those mistakes are just errors. Not evil.
What's your point? That the IRGC should have nukes and ballistic missiles all the way to Europe?
A regime that makes drones for the Russians, executes opposition activists and homosexuals, and beats women for blasphemy?
You want another North-Korea?
If you are a westerner that thinks the IRGC should have the means to kill you - just kill yourself, it would be simpler.
Again, not commenting about latin America.
I will repeat what I told you earlier. The DNI less than 3 months ago said, under oath, Iran does not have nuclear capabilities, is not close to having nuclear capabilities, and in fact has not even restarted the program that would build nuclear weapons capabilities.
Don't fall for the propaganda bullshit over and over again.
"It’s insane how many Americans are cheering on yet another war.
How many times do you need to be lied to? Gulf War I, Afghanistan, Gulf War II… Every time you swallow the propaganda, it ends in blood, failure, and profit for someone else.
When will you finally learn?"
"1 year away from a nuke" only means they will get a nuke if they work on it for 1 year.
Yes, they stalled the project for a long time. Yes, many right-wing politicians used this fear to get votes. The Iranian regime probably started running for a bomb only in the last few months after Assad and Hezbollah have fallen, thinking an Israel bleeding in Gaza won't start a fourth front (after Gaza, Lebanon and Yemen).
Same old propaganda. Just keep falling for it.
Based on how differently America treats other pariah nations like Pakistan and North Korea, nukes are powerful tools for sovereignty
Developing a nuclear weapon seems sensible for any nation that doesn't want to be ruled by America
Remember, little kim said he wants to destroy/nuke america as well. and he actually has nukes. but he also wrote our fucking moron of a president a love letter (and probably sent him bribes) so orange fucktard let it go.
but we must be afraid of iran who the intelligence community says has no nukes and is not developing them
wake the fuck up
I'm sure North Korean people are very happy with their powerful sovereignty.
There are enough crazy people in this world with access to nukes and there is no way to undo it. We can only prevent nukes from more crazy people.
for your perusal
THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION TO THIS MATTER
"It’s insane how many Americans are cheering on yet another war.
How many times do you need to be lied to? Gulf War I, Afghanistan, Gulf War II… Every time you swallow the propaganda, it ends in blood, failure, and profit for someone else.
When will you finally learn?"
I'm not an American, I'm an Israeli.
Many of America's wars were indeed influenced by an incentive to buy cheap oil from a dictatorship rather than helping democratic movement that would sell oil at the highest price the market would offer.
Saying that, the non-democratic religiously-motivated movements are very powerful, regardless of the west's influence.
"very strange reading americans tweet how iranian women can’t go to school and need to be liberated. iran has 98.9% female literacy. 70% of STEM grads are women, highest in the world. oh, and without student debt. classic weaponizing feminism to justify bombs."
"It’s critical to remember the average American reads at a 7th grade-level.
Consider this before engaging in serious conversation about Iran, overall geopolitics, warfare, or anything remotely important."
status quo's 'rules for thee and not for me'
Peter, many of us who know you well know who you really work for.
But for your audience's benefit:
Only one country has secret nuclear weapons, refuses IAEA inspections, murder kids on daily basis, and repeatedly bombs, invades and occupies its neighbours.
And it is not Iran.
It's the country you work for.
Why don't you stick to Bitcoin bro. Or move to eth
1000 fucking percent… not my fucking problem
And Not DC’s problem
Remember that time you muted me, right after telling me the kids in Gaza should just leave, while they're walled in being bombed and starved and even kids with cancer aren't free to leave?
Bro the US and Israel haven't "done nothing" while that happened.
Both countries have done the equivalent of egging the rest of the neighbors, killing some of their fathers, leveling another block, enriching our own uranium and then killing several other neighbors who think it's OK for them to get uranum.
Also as a bitcoiner you should understand the financial fuckery we've done.
Your claim that either country has done nothing is a fucking joke.
Well said
When was this biggest missile attack in human history? Is that true?
With (no) respect, you are a psychopath. Get professional help.
The Jewish power structure has been murdering the guiltless, raping the helpless, perverting the innocent, exploiting the naive, and betraying the trust of their hosts for far, far too long. I thank Divine Providence for the fact that their mask of victimhood has now fallen, and billions now see them for what they really are.
