I've lived in the balkans, I've lived with paranormal investigators and excorcism psychological evaluators, I've traveled to dangerous places, I've excelled at every professional, educational, and frivilous hobby I've attempted.

But, as a father and a husband, I find these have been my greatest challenges, they are on going, and I struggle continously. I pray to God for grace daily and I will not stop until I can say as I lay dying I did my best, and left the world better than I found it.

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You’re a good guy, John. Good poet too.

It's easy to present my best self when I can take the time to type it out. It's the reactionary side of myself that needs real work, but I appreciate you saying that thank you.

Reminds me of my dad quite a bit. He tries so hard. Hes not perfect, im not perfect either. But I know my dad has tried as hard as any dad ever could for their son. That…devotion to honesty and integrity has largely defined how I conduct myself. Your children won’t forget it. Easy to overlook sometimes but I’d argue almost anything positive about myself is due to my father. I could wax lyrical about it. Really love that guy.

Ya I love my dad too. He didn't know his dad and I know he struggled my whole adolescence wondering if he was doing it right. Now that I have a successful career, a wife, and a child and can pay for my own things, I think he's relaxed a bit, which I'm thankful for.

Definitely! There is no formula to shepherding other humans with a unique character and a free will. There are good general principles, but it’s a lifetime of continuous learning and adjustment for your specific family. Can’t think of a better endeavor though. Keep up the good work brother!

Sucks we sort of have to learn it from scratch every generation. My parents are wonderful, but my dad didn't really have reliable parents and my mom is special in her own way, but I'm trying the partial inverse Cramer rule in some aspects of my parenting.

True. My most useful questions to myself when raising my kids were:

1. How would I hope my Heavenly Father would treat me if I were in the same spot as my kids?

2. Are my actions teaching my kids to find comfort or dread in the concept of a Heavenly Father?

That you care about doing good means you’re already doing great!

You raise an important thing that guides me that comes up in my bible study all the time. Our Father in Heaven loves us like children and we are all children by comparison and less than, even when we are our worst, he forgives and loves. Thanks for sharing this.

wonderful discussion here, gentlemen.

in many ways, kids are a reflection of us. it's both beautiful and infuriating.

grace is born of love.

have grace.

^_^

Thanks homie.

you got this.

stagnation is death.

keeping questioning; keep improving.

Forever.