nostr:npub1f6ugxyxkknket3kkdgu4k0fu74vmshawermkj8d06sz6jts9t4kslazcka This would be easy to test. Auto-write a note to each relay and then follow with a deletion event and then mark the relays 🔴🟢
I might try that, later.
Discussion
apparently this "cybersecgirl" doesn't understand one of the first principles of signals intelligence:
if it's too sensitive, don't send it over a public network, even if you encrypt it with GOD level encryption
Irrelevant to the point she's making, to be honest.
There's a wide range between a customer expecting perfect security and wanton negligence from a service provider.
someone who touts themselves as an expert has a higher grade to pass
No, they don't. You just don't care about the OT and only joined the conversation to insult them.
yeah it's very relevant because if you are really worried about not being able to delete your posts you don't post them
which is elementary signals intelligence
she doesn't get a handicap because she is a "girl" if that even means anything for someone who if you actually follow her stuff you'd see that she is constantly making shit up
Nah, by far one of the most high-signal npubs on here.
Agree. One of my favorite accounts on Nostr. Keep the posts coming.
good to keep abreast of who is a dupe
If a Note is on 1 node that deletes it, and another node still has it, will it somehow populate back to the node that deleted it if enough users are searching for it?
i guess what i'm asking is are the Nodes interconnected. if this is like a Hub and Spoke network, then sometimes you have to fly from one hub to another hub to get to small towns or small relay villages.
the specification is very vague about this but part of the reason is there is no consensus
you basically have to assume two things:
1. anything you publish is probably picked up immediately and stored by somebody
2. any delete or replace event is probably not going to be acted upon by somebody
this is why fiatjaf and the general consensus among everyone who understands the protocol is that delete just doesn't work
i'm one of the small number who points out that the very concept of replacement should involve a reference to chain them and that deleting should not be all or nothing but moving old versions to a state where they can be deleted but usually not immediately
most of the nostr devs do not really understand distributed systems theory adequately, and i'm not a competent expert but they mostly understand less than me (i've been working on distributed systems since 2018 pretty much full time)
anyhow, i hope that helps
Agree, if something can be performed as an "attacker" then you cant just standardize non-forceable good behaviour in participants.
When online-status on nostr based on recent connections to relays!?😋
That's like saying we shouldn't bother locking our front doors because someone could break through a window.
There is value in making misbehavior inconventient or counterproductive.
If the front door is really locked by a tech implementation that actually works, then yes.
But internet makes things scale in a hardly to imagine way, and a "mostly locked door" easily become equivalent to an open door.
Imagine exchanging offline paper messages using some sort of Ceaser Cypher to crypt them. In most cases, if you are not an high target or someone is motivated to see the messages, you have a mostly closed door that can work for some situations, protecting messages from accidentally leaks.
Put that exchange-scheme on internet and you have an open door, you can consider your flawed encryption as exchanging cleartext.
Nope. I disagree. I may decide to delete something just because I want to clean up or accidentally posted something.
And it's bizarre if it stays in my feed, regardless, because a relay operator doesn't have their shit together or holds fanatical views on data retention.
anyone who whatched Johnny Mnemonic would get that one
Rude interactions like this are not Christ-like brother. I’m guilty of it as well
letting my brothers and sisters be duped by an obvious spook is not helping anyone either, and being afraid to speak that warning is not Christ-like either
Christ spoke out against the scams of the system... and that's all i'm doing here
it doesn't take an expert in espionage to recognise a counterintelligence operative (or loon)
Nothing they have said indicates they’re a spook
she doesn't know her subject at all and she acted like i was stalking her just because she kept on being replied to by my follows and made threats and shit
she's either a spook or she's got a personality disorder
are you going to tell me it is Christ like to not warn people about someone who is possessed by evil or?
I’ve seen your interactions all over Nostr and what I see is a divisive person with an attitude problem that is chronically online. As I said, how you behave is not Christ-like, I don’t say that for my benefit I say that for yours
In the #nostr world you need work with a new set of assumptions. For example how to interact with non-cooperative relays. Either avoid them completely, or not publish anything that compromise you.