Nationalism is a disease
Discussion
“Nationalism is not love of one’s country, but hatred of others.”
Why? Genuinely asking cuz I've never heard of it as a bad thing except in the context of nazis
Its used as a way to get citizens to war for far less than they once did. Previously there were hired mercenaries who would wage war. If it looked like they were not going to get paid or lose a battle they would leave.
Nationalism is a clear us vs them. I say this in a very successful bi/trinational peaceful nationstate.
A “nation” is only an abstract idea in our minds, but it has no physical existence. I might have a lot more in common with the guy who lives 200 miles away from me in another “nation” than with the jerk in my neighbourhood. Nevertheless, in nationalism I should rather be on the side of the jerk and, if necessary, fight the other, economically or physically. That should be enough to discard this “idea”.
Go cross the American border to Mexico and tell me it's not a physical manifestation of 2 separate nations
That example is of nation-states. The Irish nation has more people outside of the island of Ireland than inside.
One could say the nation of Christians has no borders, the Bosnians are nationals without a state.
If aliens were watching us from space they would be unable to tell how many “nations” there are because it only exists in our minds. They could say that humans in this area look different than from that area but not why one human belongs to nation A and the other belongs to nation B. Do you know what I mean?
I don't particularly like nationalism either, but this is very broken thinking. The fact that there are exceptions to the rule does not necessarily make the rule invalid.
People born in the same country will no doubt be more similar to each other, on average, than a random selection of people from around the world.
“People born in the same country will no doubt be more similar to each other, on average, than a random selection of people from around the world.”
-> No doubt but that’s because they were socialised differently, not because they are truly different. Nationalism is imposed on them. That doesn’t mean they all truly “belong together” and the guy in the next village doesn’t because he lives behind the border.
what makes it a disease?
and how does it differ from being any other religion?
just curious on your thoughts
Globalism is a worse disease than nationalism. Globalism seeks to spread everywhere turning everything into a homogeneous blob.
If trade occurs and it is not forced then it benefits all regardless of means. Globalism has been forced trade to benefit the few who have the privilege, a war without physical harm but the threat of physical is still present.
I was thinking more along the lines of global power structures that seek to erase national sovereignty. The UN, the WEF, the WHO, etc. seem to be against self determination and seek to impose top down rules over everyone. I agree that trade between individuals in various nations is a good thing.
Sovereign "individuals" cry about nationalism because they like fantasy games.
Nationals die in foreign lands defeating enemies the state created.
Since your name is Dan, why not learn about the tribe of Dan.
Certainly the Danish, Danube, Danbury and Daniel didn't come about history by being passive dolts.
Nationalist protect their nation. Very simple. Globalist are against nationalists because they are Satan's Nation.
degrees matter. being patriotic could be called nationalism but it's not harmful to be patriotic.
thinking in absolutes is not good psychology.
It is human nature to collect into groups
Those groups used to be 300 people and everybody else was the enemy
Then farming happened and then nation states
We are pack animals and while it has been lessened over the last 10,000 years it's not going away anytime soon
Easier to govern this way too
I haven't listened to this yet but will be doing so throughout the day. Relevant for sure!
Counterflow with Buck Johnson: Ep. 358 - An Orthodox Look at Christian Nationalism, with Ben Dixon
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Episode webpage: https://deathtotyrants.libsyn.com/ep-358-an-orthodox-look-at-christian-nationalism-with-ben-dixon
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