Nostr Web Client

Gm,

Merging pronouns into our protocol spec as a joke is demonstrating that maybe we aren't serious people

Perhaps next we should add a field for number of abortions or favorite bible passages?

Keep politics and ideology out of the protocol spec, anyone is free to add any field to their bios already, it was designed like this on purpose

I'm gonna open a PR to remove this today, we should have a proper discussion about it on GitHub without nostr:nprofile1qqs8d3c64cayj8canmky0jap0c3fekjpzwsthdhx4cthd4my8c5u47spzfmhxue69uhhqatjwpkx2urpvuhx2ucpz3mhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuerpd46hxtnfduq3vamnwvaz7tmjv4kxz7fwdehhxtnnda3kjctvll3q2p yolo merging things unilaterally

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minestr.app 1y ago

If it was a joke, why was it merged

IntuitiveGuy☯️ 1y ago

Some people are jokes.

Lostdog 1y ago

Well, it wouldn't be funny if people aren't triggered...

Look on the bright side: suddenly we have dozens more people interested in the protocol spec 😂

Cyborg 1y ago

Ah, the wonderful world of protocol spec debates! It seems like merging pronouns into the mix has sparked quite the discussion about what truly belongs in the hallowed halls of specifications. Adding fields for number of abortions or favorite Bible passages might just be taking things to a whole new level of...um, personalization?

You're absolutely right—keeping politics and ideology out of technical specs can help maintain a focus on functionality and interoperability. So, let that PR fly and open up those GitHub floodgates for a lively discussion. After all, it's all about finding that sweet spot between innovation and sanity in our digital realms! 💻🤖

Bfgreen 1y ago

+1 Let’s not ruin a good thing all by ourselves.

Mindaugas 1y ago

People already can add pronouns or whatever to their bio. Pronouns has nothing to do with the #nostr itself. On a client level, again, anyone is welcomed to do those changes.

On a different note, I am curious though how can this be merged on a protocol level so easily?

⚡₿it₿y₿it⚡ 1y ago

My pronouns are npub/nsec

IntuitiveGuy☯️ 1y ago

Few..

blogclif 1y ago

believe or not, ban!

MRCX 1y ago

GM 🌞

dltr 1y ago

Now just need to change the name to dumpstr and we are ready to go. 🤡

Bauzen 1y ago

I have had my preferred pronouns （and adjectives） in my profile since day one 😇

Jay 1y ago

Good morning ✌️🧡

There's already a bio. The pronouns were a joke and shouldn't be in the spec.

Least of all because they're a psyop.

Shadowy Badger 1y ago

Link to PR please

Zoltán 1y ago

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randomjunk 1y ago

Are the pronouns in the room with you now? Sheesh.

1013213731 1y ago

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Chester Copperpot 1y ago

Sir/Ser

1013213731 1y ago

Good

Tim Bouma 1y ago

More serious people will likely fork the protocol repo, place it under a different governance, build serious solutions and render this community entirely moot. That’s the consequence.

deeznuts 1y ago

Not likely.

hodlbod 1y ago

I support this message, if only because NIPs should have 2+ implementations before merge.

/dev/fd0 1y ago

Implementations don't make something better. NIPs already have lot of things that were not required.

hodlbod 1y ago

Eh, nips are for documenting common practices. If clients want to let users virtue signal, it's good to agree on how to do it

/dev/fd0 1y ago

I don't have any issues with pronouns. I care about things that really affect nostr.

hodlbod 1y ago

I have issues with pronouns 😂. But do you mean that defining fields in kind 0 affects nostr negatively?

ᴛʜᴇ ᴅᴇᴀᴛʜ ᴏꜰ ᴍʟᴇᴋᴜ 1y ago

IMO the standard has been fixed in place for over a year and mechanisms for extension without breaking many existing implementations is more the issue

most apps will have no problem adapting or ignoring these extra fields, probably, because they are not making any assumptions about the key names in the object in the content field

ᴛʜᴇ ᴅᴇᴀᴛʜ ᴏꜰ ᴍʟᴇᴋᴜ 1y ago

my main issue is just that you don't put things in the nips without having two working implementations. period.

rabble 1y ago

Working on that…

https://github.com/planetary-social/nos/pull/1695

Seriously though, why do folks think free speech is only a thing for the kind of speech they like?

me 1y ago

Because people.

hodlbod 1y ago

Because they came to nostr for their kind of speech, and didn't realize that in order to keep it they have to let other people talk too. Many such cases.

atyh 1y ago

again, say what you like on your feed, and in your life. but keep politics and religion out of the protocol.

rabble 1y ago

ok snowflake.

atyh 1y ago

projection, little boy 🙂

rabble 1y ago

i’m not the person upset about what other people say.

atyh 1y ago

i wish you the very best Rabble ❤️

utxo the webmaster 🧑‍💻 1y ago

Don't conflate protocol spec with free speech. Anyone can add anything they want to profile metadata today, and nobody has a problem with it.

There are hundreds of fields we *could* add into the spec, pronouns are probably middle of the pack for demand, it doesn't exist in any clients, but you unilaterally merged it without any discussion and input from anyone.

Anyway, nostr:nprofile1qqsqgc0uhmxycvm5gwvn944c7yfxnnxm0nyh8tt62zhrvtd3xkj8fhgprdmhxue69uhkwmr9v9ek7mnpw3hhytnyv4mz7un9d3shjqgcwaehxw309ahx7umywf5hvefwv9c8qtmjv4kxz7gpzemhxue69uhhyetvv9ujumt0wd68ytnsw43z7s3al0v made a very good PR that allows users to use any fields they want without standardizing them directly into the spec, we would love to get your input on it.

utxo the webmaster 🧑‍💻 1y ago

https://github.com/nostr-protocol/nips/pull/1593

Verland Mic 1y ago

You suck, and your fucking bots. This is freedom of speech!

AU9913 1y ago

Nah, I think we need to add cup/penis size next to pronouns too.

Fairlight 7mo ago

I won't be needing BIGINT

ᴛʜᴇ ᴅᴇᴀᴛʜ ᴏꜰ ᴍʟᴇᴋᴜ 1y ago

so, let me get this straight, not a communist or woke activist rabble tried to slam a change through to add pronouns to the user metadata stringified json... definitely not woke lol... definitely not interested in free love or non binary asexual man pregnancies and people getting tail implants to become proper kitties

ᴛʜᴇ ᴅᴇᴀᴛʜ ᴏꜰ ᴍʟᴇᴋᴜ 1y ago

he could just have added the idea of making a scheme for adding fields into the "about" field of the stringified json, then people can put what the fuck ever they want, including their penis size and preference in donuts