I think everyone should have a baseline level of strength in order to protect your family. But for me thatās not enough I wanna be able to say that Iāve gotten close to my bodyās full genetic potential šŖ
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This is interesting because I have similar goals while training for longevity
I started training like 10 years ago but I didnāt get significant results. That failure was like a stain in my mind that never went away. I donāt like the idea of giving up on something. So even though it would make me looked better, I want to also have the pride to say that I accomplished it even if it took me a long time. And I can share that lesson of never giving up with my future children. Itās a discipline thing for me with many other benefits.
Having discipline and showing that discipline to my children is definitely a big part of it. They notice everything.
For me, I see training as a way to be able to keep up with the children and being able to move and stay active as long as possible. Even though the aesthetics part is a nice bonus, itās not the main goal for me. Whatās interesting is that gaining lean mass is important for aesthetics as well as for longevity.
For me it is just fun to do. If I can make something more physical, more difficult I will. Effort is exhilarating.
This also. I agree with that as well. I guess the reason we do it for might be different. But itās relatively all the same in the end. Or very similar at least
Yeah theyāre all great benefits. Doing deadlifts and wrist curled were literally the only things that actually provided significant pain relief for my lower back and the tendinitis in my hands. Physical therapy, icing, splints, stretching didnāt work for me.
I did have some back pain 12 years ago. Leg day and training back fixed it. Everything else I tried failed
It sounds so obvious in hindsight doesnāt it? Like oh my back hurts because itās weak. Not because of sciatica or because my hamstrings are tight and need to be stretched to relieve tension or because the mattress isnāt firm enough. š
If you was training for size/aesthetics/genetic potential and you wasn't meeting your goals, providing you was putting in the work, and I've no reason to believe you wasn't. Almost certainly the reason why you didn't get there was because you wasn't eating enough. I can't stress that enough. You have to eat an absolutely insane amount of food to gain a significant amount of mass. My walking around weight is roughly 67kg, years ago, when I was really into it, I got up to 82kg, that took me about 3 years. The reason I stopped going the gym wasn't because I wasn't enjoying it, it was the staggering amount of food involved, it seemed like I was eating all day, every day. I've recently started going again, about 8 weeks ago and I'm enjoying it but I'm already fed up with the amount of food I'm having to eatš.
If your main goal is acquiring mass, why not use protein powder? I prefer to stay away from it but if you want mass, itās super cost efficient
It doesn't have the calories, someone of my size needs between 80-120g of protein to build muscle. I can get that with 2 pints of full fat milk and a 500g pot of Greek yoghurt, that along isn't enough to build size, your body needs lots of fats and carbs too, just to function day to day. That's even true of me, who spends the vast majority of the time lying on my couchš.
Itās roughly 140 calories for 35g of protein. People I know usually take 2 portions, on top of your calorie intake through food
There isnāt really anything unique in protein powder that you canāt get from a good steak. Itās whey protein so derived from milk. The biggest benefit is just convenience.
I donāt use it anymore. But he says heās struggling to eat as much as he needs. Thatās why I suggested weigh isolate
These views are outdated. I ate a fuck ton and just got fat. I used to take mass gainers and everything. I saw significant results when I trained more intensely and reduced the frequency.
Hmmmmm, interestingš§.
People are more likely to overtrain or undertrain than to under eat. Muscles grow outside of the gym especially when youāre sleeping. So if you donāt allow them sufficient rest time to grow, then you start to get weaker. Also remember that your muscles can still grow even in a slight calorie deficit. Not ideal but itās possible. So it wouldnāt make sense for overeating to be the key. The reason itās a common belief is because people are looking at bodybuilders on steroids and how they train. That doesnāt apply to natural lifters.
Everybody is different I guess. I just know that I need to eat a shit load of food in order to put on weight. I'm an ectomorph.
Growing muscle and gaining weight are not always the same thing. You donāt have to gain weight to grow muscle.