The amount of times I have to warn users that freedom of speech, as we commonly understand in the US, may not be a thing in their country, is out of this world.

Call it Holywood brainwashing or whatever you want, but there is a lot of people outside the US that think the US law and their country's own law are similar, if not the same. And that is a dangerous assumption to make.

Point in case: There is no general right to free speech in the UK. Many examples of British law violate the US's first amendment. Today's freedom of speech law in the UK is a side-effect of their membership into the European Union. Until now, the UK Parliament has *chosen* to exercise self-restraint in which speech should be prosecuted. But that can change with the political will of that institution, especially now that it is not part of the EU anymore. US's first amendment, on the other way, cannot be easily changed or limited by congress.

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They gave up their freedom long before today when they decided to put cameras everywhere

they just need more plebs lasering the cams...

The number of cameras in the UK is insane.

You need more bladerunners

Interesting

Absofuckinlutely! Its gone batshit crazy here lately. We have so many laws and statutes it is mind blowing. Each one is hand written on a scroll and stored at Westminster. Millions of them. It's probably why not many laws get repealed.

This week the newly elected government has declared war on it's very own people. It has arrested, tried and convicted people over the civil unrest that has been going on. Usually it takes many, many months to go to court.

I was wondering about Guy Fawkes and all those paper scrolls at Westminster... Is that the police at my door!!!

Here in the UK, freedom of speech is a privilege. It comes with a caveat, that is if one were to exercise such privilege then one is responsible for any and all resulting repercussions.

One look at the gradual dismantling of the second amendment via arbitrary language by people who have no idea what the mechanics of it means is all you need to see to realize that the American first admendment is not as iron clad as many believe

The language and information games will continue until I'm in a gulag regardless.

“And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand?... The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt! If...if...We didn't love freedom enough. And even more – we had no awareness of the real situation.... We purely and simply deserved everything that happened afterward.”

― Aleksandr I. Solzhenitsyn , The Gulag Archipelago 1918–1956

The UK is still a member of the Council of Europe for which the European Convention on Human Rights (ECHR) applies. Art. 10 - Expression is interesting in the UK case. There are a number of possibilities to restrict that freedom of expression, such as national security, public safety etc. However, the European Court of Human Rights has judiciary power of the ECHR beyond national jurisdictions. Therefore, it will be interesting how individual cases of violations of Art. 10 ECHR in the UK would be handled by the court.

Yes and no.

Yes, and what's more, the UK haven't had free speech for a long time now. This last few days were just "them" flexing, but it's been happening for quite a while now.

No, because the 1st amendment, although enshrined in law, is just as safe as any other dependent on the WILDLY different interpretation of every judge. Case in point, the trump lawfare cases.

Justice is whatever the people in power feel is in their best interests at that moment. You can't trust writings on a piece of paper.

I couldn't agree for more. Hence, brace yourselves every time there is a new party or person "playing" politics in every country. It is unwise to think that every politicians will always have your best interests let alone your FREEDOM of SPEECH!

Policeing tweets is a waste of time, money, and resources .

Cypherpunks write code

It's time we assumed it will all be banned & we need to run the code.

Don't wait for the code to be removed from the app store 😆

Yea it's a big thing to be aware of. Nostr counters online censorship and can with high potential circumvent it.

But... evil governments can still knock on your door for things said here and apply their immoral laws if they track you down.

In the case of the UK, I seriously think the US should announce a travel warning for going there. They have their 2003 Communications act which makes it an offense to send public messages of a “grossly offensive or of an indecent, obscene or menacing character,” [1]. It's basically risky business visiting for Americans because they can have done legal tweeting at home that risks them a fine or jail when on a visit in the UK.

Something to be vary of in both leisure and business travel to that place.

1:

https://www.theverge.com/2022/2/7/22912054/uk-grossly-offensive-tweet-prosecution-section-127-2003-communications-act

On paper freedom of speech is allowed in the U.S.

In practice you will end up in jail.

Never give up your guns.

They have been trying hard to take away your 2nd amendment rights so they can get rid of your 1st amendment rights.

Maybe Americans have been brainwashed to go against the freedom of speech rights.

Always push back or you'll end up like the UK or worse.

Bitcoin beers and bullets

At the end of the day it’s all cultural. On paper Russia has a stronger bill of rights than the USA but in practice they have essentially no rights. What’s written on paper is only a small part of the equation. For free speech to ensure a society had to continually uphold it as a key value.

Freedom of speech is disappearing in the us too. Slowly all speech is being controlled, and the only place where you can have freedom of speech is nostr.