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Correct. "Censorship resistance" is no longer a selling point when people are encouraged to load up their relay in the same cloud.

I think maybe we don't need to reach individuals and encourage them to setup cloud relays, because again my argument is cloud relays don't strengthen censorship resistance, so unless you need a private relay for private things, I don't think its right to encourage normies to cloud host a relay, it's a false predicate.

We need to encourage self-hosted hosted platforms like you mentioned to get relays into the hands of hosters. And get everyone's geeky friend to set them up a relay on their own metal.

I would rather rely on the hardcore nostr developers hosting public relays (paid or not) and having normies use them over private cloud relays.

I think people (specifically in the US) forget how much control the ABCs have over cloud providers and how much data they hoover, I think it's doing user's a disservice in the long run.

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Alison Avery 1y ago

I certainly agree with you. "Geeky friends"/plebs like me will definitely set it up for ourselves at home if someone shows us the way. Then we "power users" educate and translate to the outside world.

You guys create, we embrace, then we translate and help people onboard. I've been in this position my whole life. And I Iove it.

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