Ouch.

The crazy part is that the protocol IS the sexy part.

Engagement on corporate tech platforms comes and goes, influencers come and go for various reasons, trends come and go so they aren’t really sexy or rare anymore. It’s not fresh, it’s not edgy.

Nostr is sexy just by being what it is. The protocol is edgy. The idea of it should give most Bitcoiners the buzz that they are looking for.

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You get it.

You’re on X to shill a business or you’re on Nostr because it’s true progress.

I might not be around all of the time but I’m passionate about this protocol. It’s one of my favorite things on earth. Carl is # 1 obviously. 😂

This protocol loves Carl 🤓

This is almost unbelievably out of touch with normal people.

I wasn’t trying to speak from a “normal” persons perspective. I was speaking from my own.

I can get normal if you want me to. It’s too many steps here. Very few actually care about freedom and normal people don’t care about seeing posts about bitcoin…. All of that could change of course.

Disruptive 🤝

I wouldn't dream of asking a non-techie to use nostr, even if they were into bitcoin. Most likely, a normie bitcoiner is afraid of hodling off-exchange. The keys thing is too much to ask of normies, they can't even remember the name of their cat for their password. Asking them to keep track of an unrecoverable key is like trying to make your dog wear shoes. A very predictable outcome. This isn't a problem that will be resolved anytime soon so far as I know. For a techie bitcoiner, on the other hand, it's a more reasonable ask to store a key. This might be the real reason nostr has a lot of bitcoiners; key-handling skill is a filter.

It isn’t an effortless process. It’s definitely a new concept for those who aren’t used to it. I wouldn’t say that it’s any harder than figuring out health insurance or taxes. I wasn’t a techie when I joined and I wasn’t really into bitcoin. I understood bitcoin after I came to nostr. I understand bitcoin because of nostr. I think that normies could get it.

The difference is not everyone wants to or is willing to do the work.

That's the whole difference between a techie and a normie

Unfortunately it doesn't have to be. Twatter Welfare is a thing these days.

Blue Checked Bitcoiners that have built up massive followers over the years are making $200, $500, even thousands per month.

How many bitcoiners are there and how many bitcoiners make a good living on X? Honest question because I don’t know.

Couldn't tell you, but I know IRL friends with what I'd consider small followings (sub 10k) and they make over a hundred per payout cycle. I've also seen larger accounts post their payouts and have seen multiple in the $10k+ arena. Until that program dies or the rates drop significantly, they're very unlikely to move.

You also have the class of folks that run Bitcoin-related businesses so they are unlikely to move due to the network effects X enjoys.

Ok so probably like 100 bitcoiners make outstanding money on X? They could cross post right?

They definitely could and some do.

But for the most part, I think they view it as not worth their time. I've had conversations with quite a few people at meetups and conferences and that is usually the response I get.

Well they can do whatever. I’m sure they have their reasons and what they all do really isn’t any of my business anyway 😂

Paid in engagement or monies?

I had an "influencer" at a bitcoin conference tell me flat out how much she hated nostr, and preferred X where she was making 'bank in fiat' while she was promoting bitcoin. Also she insisted that I doxx myself. Good grief, sounded more like a Grifter than anything else. Short term mindset and doesn't actually understand bitcoin or protocols.

Over time we just have to sift through the real vs fakes

Yikes. These people are the absolute worst.

The influencer bitcoiner and cypherpunk bitcoiner overlap is very small

She also co-authored a book with a well known bitcoin dev, maybe that's even worse as its a permanent first impression to the outside public.

I wish I knew who you were talking about but then I'm all like, it doesn't sound like I'm missing anything NOT knowing.

How does one do both?

By only being a “cypherpunk” for the purposes of getting a bigger following

Like already happening here

now I want to know who makes this overlap in jb55's opinion... other than himself, ofc

I too want to know the answer to this.

Good.

Wait til you hear about the true cypherpunk and the person who understands economics overlap.

Many like me, saw in Nostr the reason for the removal of the invisible crutch, which the centralized platforms put in our hands. If Nostr has the power to free ⛓️‍💥 from all other networks, with hidden or uncovered reasons, it is indeed magnificent in its essence.