Have you tried a self hosted Electrum server? That is exactly what you are looking for

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I haven't I got scared off. I already had a full node sitting right here why can't I just use it?? I will take another look! That and ensuring that I don't leak anything when I setup electrum again.

Because your β€œfull node” does not actually have any proper indexes for address txn history

But why isn't the utxo set enough?

1. Not indexed either

2. Transaction history

I'm suggesting the application simple handling the indexing I understand that has to be a stateful process. There is going to be state stored somewhere. Im suggesting the app store my wallet state without needing to download chain state.

There is just no need to couple my wallet to 800gb of data...

Ah, uh… no app does that I think

They either piggyback off of Bitcoin Core wallet functionality or use the Electrum server

Right... The latter statement is all I'm asking for.

One of a few examples - I'd like to be able to break out a phrase, or a pubkey (whatever format necessary) check the balance (wait a few minutes while scanning utxos) then make it vanish. No connecting to outside servers since I have a copy of the network local. No need to store things on the server and trust the server either.

So electrum sounds good, but see my other comment.

Also, use Fulcrum, it is much faster. Instead of minute it'll be a few seconds usually at most.

Oh! I will take a deeper look!

Why does the website have to be such a meme XD

"lightning is so complicated!" they said. "why can't it be dead simple like bitcoin!" they said πŸ˜‚

That was me. I was they... damn

everything is always more complicated than it seems. thus is life

I'll still die on that hill though. I made a shitty balance watcher in like 50 lines of C# with an rpc connection. LN is retarded. My complaint is it is so simple yet no wallet offers it.

Have you tried CLN?

Yeah... um... that's kind of become my main hot on-chain wallet unfortunately. The LN part I gave up on because I didn't want that much capital in a hot wallet.

You can have a channel with mostly inbound

honestly they're not wrong about lightning... just about bitcoin itself

and i'm going to make it even worse, for the best possible reasons

Ill take that

It looks like electrum also needs to have some copy of the chain state? So I need another 20-800gb?

Kind of, only the scriptpubkeys.

I see some sort of "pruning" is supported. It's just getting expensive to have this many copies of stuff around.

This will delete old blocks

And by extension break yout electrum server.

Bummer. So I should provision another 500gb-1tb of disk space?