If you think send Zaps is significantly growing a Bitcoin circular economy here on Nostr, just wait until clients launch built-in marketplaces. We'll be buying and selling products and services from other Nostriches. No more Ebay. Not more Facebook Marketplace. This is the "Other Stuff" that I'm really looking forward to seeing come to fruition. πŸš€ ⚑

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Please make this a reality!!!

I know of 2 clients that plan on doing just this and I've seen mock-ups for 1 of them. I'm sure many will at some point in the future. It's inevitable!

LFG!!!

The future is not β€œBig-Tech” but it is β€œCommunity-Tech”

Would Current be a 3rd client that I can add to my unofficial list? πŸ‘€

Stop ‼️ Your getting me excited. 😁

LMAO, people are wrong and right here.

Yes please! Happy to be a beta site with our bitcoin coffee store.

Imagine a future where I can visit your profile and see the coffee that you're selling and purchase directly from your profile πŸ˜‰ It's coming.

😲

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Given the current speed of development, it will take a few days only πŸ”₯πŸ˜„

that would be so amazing, i bet it’s already a WIP πŸ’œ

Lots of preparations to be βœ… for this to come to fruition.

But we are building this 🟠🟣.

So much potential, really exciting times to see this happen and be a part of it.

I'm getting ready to build something

Sounds like Silk Road!

What a visionary.

Joking aside, how will a market work on Nostr? Do you envision note types for things on offer and bids?

We'd probably have dedicated note and even kinds for these I would assume. We'd probably need a NIP specific do this if an existing one cannot be leveraged.

A true Agora

Bro this would be so awesome!

Agree, other me.

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i’m not seeing my zap on this note. do they take awhile to show up?

Yeah, they take a few seconds. It should show up. I guess if we're hammering stacker.news it could take longer than normal.

Every time someone comments on this post it pops back up in my notifications and die a little at my typo.

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The cool part is the brain fils in most of the mistaks so not as many peple notice.

Don’t feel bad.

Brains are fucking cool.

How do you get notifications???

Snort is spamming my system with them 🀣

It’s really exciting to imagine what is possible with a protocol like this. I think a lot of things will have to change to handle the various use cases but I struggle to think of many centralized services like all of social media, eBay, Craigslist that couldn’t be done even better here.

at it's most basic level, anything could be built on nostr even if it just uses notstr for authentication and event sending.

Right. I’m imagining that specialized relays may handle certain use cases better but that they could be completely interoperable and use the same identity across all of them. But it’d still be Nostr and bring with it all the benefits.

Someone buidl me an eBay alternative around nostr so I can sell all my high priced Star Wars collectibles for corn. Okie?

⚑️ you don’t have NIP-57 yet?

I've had it and been using it for several days now. Stacker.news works great!

Okay just saw your comment about how it takes a while for the zaps to show up publicly. Do you get notifications when you get zapped?

on Snort, no. on Amethyst, yes. But Amethyst doesn't have native OS notifications working.

Dude, NIP-57 blows my mind 🀯

It’s so much more than a fun feature of nostr. It’s the fulfillment of The Crypto Anarchist Manifesto.

Totally agree

How do you handle escrow for that? There has to be a way to reconcile disputes and refunds etc. Have to have a centralized third party right? Not saying that’s bad. Just asking if there is a way to do it.

I see us using a Web-of-Trust and a badge system. Maybe even third party service providers would pop up, providing the badges. They could even handle escrow if needed.

Shhhhh we're not supposed to talk about that yet.

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I’m waiting for an audio event type where you get to hear a snippet of a podcast highlight. Zap the fee and then entire audio unlocks encrypted directly to your pubkey.

Zap-to-eardrums. Noice.

now that right there is some hardcore Other Stuff

This is why I’m here.

Cool idea! But then what's to stop you from sharing it freely with others, or reselling it to others, if you were so inclined? Would that matter to the podcaster? Could the file be encrypted in a way that it couldn't be shared by anyone other than you?

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This would be so epic.

πŸ€™our dream is coming true πŸ™πŸ»

with enough sun, steaks, and sats, anything is possible.

Definitely need a Nostr eBay. I've got loads of artwork I need to sell for Bitcoin

At the rate things are developing, I assume we’ll be taking on eBay in about a month.

awesome. i'll start cleaning out my garage now.

Me too. I have an online fashion business. Would be very interested to be part of the vanguard in this marketplace. I'm keen to discuss.

I've seen the future and its called BitcoinNostra

We need a clean separation on the client between the list below to make UX cleaner for user based on what they want to consume/use

1. Tweet like posts for social media

2. Marketplace for products and services

3. Content donation /subscrubtion (gofundme, onlyfan, patreon)

If that can be achieved. The circular economy using LN+Nostr will be amazing..

I envision we'd see something like visiting a user's profile and if they have marketplace items, they'd have a marketplace tab.

This would be great! Would love to feature my creative fiction Bitcoin books for sale for any plebs who want to zap some sats.

No permission required!

https://www.amazon.com/Bitcoin-Girl-Save-World-Dog/dp/B0BS8XB72K/?&_encoding=UTF8&tag=realbitcoindo-20&linkCode=ur2&linkId=e352f33f7e64f43daf2b40053ca04dee&camp=1789&creative=9325

We're not yet at that point (but probably soon...), but you can sell your book for sats at plebeian.market already :)

We could be working on something like that at plebeian.market :)

This would be SO fucking amazing.

Your post is making waves.

Added to the https://member.cash/hot feed

I am keen to see how zaps mature will people start selling things on their nostr profiles, will clients provide ways to do that be it selling subscriptions, setting up bounties to do tasks and even P2P trades

NOSTRY… that what we calling itπŸ˜‚

My body is ready.

🀯 thanks for the vision!

Totally agree!!

Perhaps we end up with a decentralized Silk Road…

I agree, zaps are amazing! Just worth mentioning that similarly to likes it can also get manipulated

Looking forward to seeing how Zaps continue to evolve in the future ⚑

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Aug 23

No clients with built-in marketplace so far...

eBay, Etsy, Shopify, Facebook Marketplace they are still there to rulez.

Sorry.

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I agree. LNbits is working on Nosrt Markets, NIP-15. It isn' so far!

Absolutely πŸ’―

Are there any marketplace already deployed ?

WANT OTHER STUFF! πŸ₯°

Just one observation about the term "circular economy' , a circular economy means it has transactions only in a determined area or place(a communist concept), in practice it needs restrictions to work that way. There's only one economy and it's the global economy.