Imagine spending $700 to run umbrel lmao
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They just took the intel nuc and slapped their logo on it and downloaded their software to it. Then upped the price.
π They just repurposed the old bitcoin machine that didnβt sell and put a new shell and SSD, viola $700
That's definitely more corn than I'm going to drop! Nice specs for something that small, and I can appreciate it being a plu and play solution. But I can buy a lot of server for $700.
Yeap! Doesnβt make any sense
It's just so plebs can brag about their fancy umbrel or start, and brag on #sendnodes
I could actually run 4 slim tower style servers side by side with the same specs and do Umbrel plus way more for that money.
What's your preferred hardware for this?
I've been recommending refurbished dell SFF and for those space conscious the MFF but curious what other reasonably priced options exist.
Now, hear me out.....
You need a SSD tho, other than that this beats Umbrelβs home server
Yeah. For the Dells I recommend an upgrade. For about $100 you can get a 2TB SSD nvme and a caddy to plug in place of the optical drive. That's good for a few years of Bitcoin running even if blocks are full of inscriptions.
Shit, you can buy no-name Chinese 2TB SSDs for like $60, but if you want name brand:
I've heard of many failures on the recent Samsung EVOS in past few years. Great brand usually, and probably just a numbers issue, but still makes me nervous.
Then again, I've had to return WDs and had a TeamGroup prematurely fail at 3 years.
Lol. Nice.
I don't need to spend the money but I've been looking at a few similar to that just to slap in a closet and let it do node/relay things. The specs are damn good for $100. I've been seeing some with even better specs for under $300
I've gotta spend the money this year. My drives are in the yellow on space and the extra horsepower and ram will be handy.
But I gotta decide if I want an i5 CPU or splurge a little on an i7. SFF vs Tower also relevant as the small towers are excellent for storage
I mean, this works too. Double the RAM, really solid looking processing speed, has SSD storage already, wifi in case you want.....under $300
Rather have a Futurebit
Yes, I still run it on my Raspberry Pi, Umbrel has lot of good Apps,
Nostr Relay too etc. 
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Iβm more interested in the Start9 $200 rig.
Lol, well Iβm spending like $5k on a machine thatβs gonna run Umbrel too π
I mean the OS is free, they are selling a computer. The real question is: is that a decent price for a $700 pre-packaged computer, or can you do better and install Umbrel on it yourself π€
You can get same hardware they re sell much more cheaper! β¬150 + $110 ssd 2 TB lol
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Theyβre not marketing this for the build-it-yourself crowd. Theyβre marketing to guys like me that know they could but also struggle to find the time to do so and struggle with all the software sides of things. Letβs be real, all the walkthroughs for installing/running all the different OS are confusing as fuck if youβre not a techie. Thereβs all kinds of abbreviations and acronyms, even on the walkthroughs labeled βfor dummiesβ because you forget what you didnβt know. You forget that when you started learning a thing that you didnβt know what jpeg was.
All that being said, Iβm probably not gonna pay $700 for it but mostly because I have other priorities for that money, but these kind of things are the kind of machines people like me want and will pay for. The first generations are always more expensive.
Somehow you managed set up your router right? Or figured out how to use internet π Running OS like umbrel or raspiblitz isnβt rocket since.
Didnβt say it was impossible. I said I struggle with it. Itβs a skill set, and skill sets take time to develop, which requires taking time from other goals I have such as playing with my daughter, working on my garden setup, working on the kitchen cabinets that are currently half torn apart, etc etc. the software side of things is also something that doesnβt make a whole lot of sense for me, and Iβve dedicated some money and time to trying but havenβt gotten there yet. Therefore it comes down to deciding where my priorities are and what does me better profit. Do I spend untold hours trying to figure it out at a rate of $20/hr or better, or do I drop the money on a plug and play machine and go do something that makes me money for those same untold hours?
Time is everything man. I wonβt hate on anyone paying more for something complete that requires no setup.
I have found as more time passes how much I have benefitted by controlling my thinking that BECAUSE I can do something myself, that this means I SHOULD do it myself. This has been my problem with the podcast and YouTube channel actually. I still refuse to hand off the production and editing to anyone else because Iβve just always edited my own work. But I donβt think I know any other podcaster who still does all that tedious crap even after their show becomes somewhat successful and I have to get over myself and let go. To this day I just do the show entirely myself.
Another point: I can fix about anything on my car, but I decided a few years back that I wasnβt going to do that anymore, even at the absurd prices for car repair, unless I really just wanted to tackle a car project simply because I miss it.
Exactly. We bought a stove a while back, super simple to install one right? Delivery and install was like $30 including the cable. The cable price alone to do it myself was $20, plus say $10 in fuel driving to the store and back, the time involved driving to, loading, driving home, unloading, getting in the house, wiring, then sliding in the cabinet. Needless to say, we had it delivered.
I enjoy fixing my car because I'm still learning how to & it's a bear market.
I don't enjoy video & particularly audio editing because I'm over most of the learning hump. It is just tedious for me now but it brings in the fiat.
I love learning & I imagine I'll turn into a grumpy old bastard when I stop learning.
I don't bother building my own PCs any more though. I pick out my components & then get the Chinese guy in the shop to build it for me. π€·
I have the same specs as umbrel and I paid $230
π wtf?
i think for PC illiterate normies it could make sense if they REALLY want a plug and play experience. but any reasonable person will just buy a refurbished optiplex for 1/3 the price. I do think it's good they're creating competition to start9.
it also makes more sense to me for a Bitcoiner to buy general purpose hardware, rather than hardware from Bitcoin focused companies. but that's just personal preference.
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I mean, I DID buy a prebuilt, but I plan to DIY later. I'm totally fine with prebuilts since not everyone is a tinkering nerd like me and it increases accessibility. The more nodes, the better
Hey, I created a simple java client for interacting with mempool.space (or your own instance). It isnβt finished yet but itβs working for almost all of the endpoints at this point (a couple of lightning endpoints yet to be done). Use it however you please: https://github.com/jtechx/mempool4j