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A miracle is just something that hasn't happened before.
Its reality expressing itself in a way that doesn't fit your linguistic model of it. If the real world exists, and if your mental model of the world is not a perfect copy of the real, then it follows logically that there must be unobserved qualities of the real.
#gm #god
This is the same thread that led me back to God also
Nihilist materialists don't understand chaos. Chaos is the pinnacle of the creation. Everything works by probability and is patterned in ways that emerge from first principles.
The angle I'm taking to approach God can be summarized as training myself to recognize the emergent phenomena that symbols represent. And that just started as a quest to learn how to write fiction... I can write dry prose all day, but good fiction is amazingly difficult. So far, it has really only leade back into dry prose.
Have you delved into some of Pageau's work? He has some interesting conversations that you may enjoy.
The Symbolic World
Better link here.
The Symbolic World: 362 - Dr. Martin Shaw - Christian Wonder Tales
Episode webpage: https://www.spreaker.com/episode/362-dr-martin-shaw-christian-wonder-tales--62313609
Yes, I love Pageau's talks. Its been a while, so maybe I could learn more by returning to the material.
Hmm. I might have to just make do with his stuff on YouTube. Signing up to listen involves interacting with centralized identity thieves.
So I'm thinking a long the lines of good fiction being miraculous and of God/tao/Jesus...
Do you have any particular authors as aspirations?
I don't know if these authors were leaning into "God" to write, but they are my favorite:
P.G. Wodehouse
Jane Austin
Emile Zola (including just to be fancy, I only read "La Bete Humaine")
And of course Rowland
So if I could churn out anything that looks like theirs, I'd settle for that. 😀
I think for me the key is to get out in the world more and meet more characters. I really love people I meet and I can see a lot of humor in their characters.
Like Mleku, for example. It sounds like he has to locate the key before some disk defragmenter (that he may have even programmed himself) finds it and churns it up.
But he is running around juggling subjects like satellite bombs and Tao. Will he find the key only to lose it again?
I'm not joking by the way, I hope you find the key.
Hey, thanks, I don't think I've read those, so that's potentially a goldmine.
I actually specifically don't want to emulate the authors I've read, except for their ability to draw a believable new paradigm. If what I turn out is another rehash of space battles and aliens, then there's no point. But that's the general direction, except I have no intention of including aliens and I see the space battles more as board room intrigues that involve a problem I see us hitting in the next couple hundred years. Space features prominently, but not freely accessible space - its more of a representation of possibility, which is also how I see the ocean. I can't say any of this will make it to the final version - I'm at the stage of ideas on a mind map and bashing my head on a wall hoping a plot falls out of it. Dry prose - easy ; something enjoyable to read - not easy.
mleku will be fine. I get the impression he has the kind of temperament that can rebuild itself after a setback.
i'm sure i'm gonna manage, it's just making me facepalm into the wall behind my head how hard it is to get an answer to the simple question "how can i see the seed that my bitcoin wallet key is based on"
hmmm ok maybe AI can fix this because all the shitty probabalistic fuzzy logic based search things are just feeding me dumbshit about how you can't get bitcoin core to show you a seed as bip39 words
and there's a reason for that, probably - because the wallet key seed is probably 256 bits and you can't do that with 24 words, you need 25, i already went through this
also, yeah... back on topic, as for narratives, i think that the most transformative writers of all time are Frank Herbert, Douglas Adams, maybe Terry Pratchett
those guys really knew how to write a story that breaks your brain
It sounds like you're writing about ideas. There's some proverb about how average people talk about people, smart people talk about things, and geniuses talk about ideas.
I think the books I mentioned mostly indulge in talking about people which tickles my funny bone, but probably don't have much beyond that.
I recently read a book about how the current Republicans are just uniquely awful and if we just replace them, we would have no assault on democracy and freedoms! The revolutionary idea is to replace the people with other people who are better trained or more polite or just less horrible than current Republicans.
That's what's cool about the orange pill like Bitcoin standard book is that it actually talks about ideas that are revolutionary and it's illustrated through history of people :-D.
Austin might be a little about merit and retribution. Wodehouse--I would have to reread him now with a clear vision for what his MO was. I just remember eccentric characters and situations that somehow resolve themselves for the good of everyone involved.
this sounds like a geometric proof. i had to reread a couple times... i think i understand, but it's elusive ! haha
I tried to keep it simple this time. I have too much of a tendency to go on and on... But the tradeoff is compactness is harder to process
I am trying to run some things that I think are miraculous thru the proof. Is it implied that the "unobserved realities" may be #god?
*"Unobserved qualities of the real"
or if you prefer #tao and the meaning of that immediately should bring to mind #jesus who is the way
Yes, I believe that. But its multidimensional (meaning, axis, not universes) and I'm not satisfied with simply believing.
Maybe. Depends on which aspect of God you're looking for. Saying more than that is difficult because so much of it is your subjective experience, your own mutating relation with the ineffible. An unobserved reality could just be that matter behaves in different ways under different conditions. A hand phone is a miracle to anyone more than a century ago. But another unobserved reality emerges from consensus. Market interactions are value consensus, and that example proves the maxim of "the whole is greater than the sum of its parts." There's no telling what other mechanisms exist, without personal interaction.
The only part of God that I can confidently say I've interacted with is the holy spirit, or the tao. The spirit is called the helper for good reason - when you call on it, it responds. How can it be described in materialist terms? Idk. The first step is knowing that the map isn't the territory. That's a linguistic statement. Parts of the Bible seem to be a repeating pattern of people falling into idolatry, and God going all Ezekiel on them. Idolatry is the mistake of thinking the linguistic object in your mind is the thing itself. But its not. Everything (everything) you see is filtered through layers of interpretation, starting from the light reflected, to the eyes' interpretation, to the nerve transmission, to the decoding of the signal off the nerve, to the visible object representing it in your mind, to the spoken language you use to describe it - and only AFTER the linguistic recognition are you consciously aware of it. At every step is a chance to lose information. Skipping all these interpretive steps would involve direct sight of your spirit, which would be union with the wiggly world. So, I deduce that the path to direct sight is to deal in representative symbols first, so that the linguistic model in my mind can accommodate qualities that would be lost in all the lossy encryption and transformation along the path to "me."
