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Can you zap with nostr:nprofile1qqsrf5h4ya83jk8u6t9jgc76h6kalz3plp9vusjpm2ygqgalqhxgp9gpz4mhxue69uhk2er9dchxummnw3ezumrpdejqzyrhwden5te0dehhxarj9ekxzmnyqyt8wumn8ghj7un9d3shjtnwdaehgu3wvfskueq555fk2 wallet?

Because then why would anyone fool around with nostr:nprofile1qqsyv47lazt9h6ycp2fsw270khje5egjgsrdkrupjg27u796g7f5k0spzemhxue69uhk2er9dchxummnw3ezumrpdejz7qgwwaehxw309ahx7uewd3hkctcprdmhxue69uhkummnw3ez6vfwde3x7tnpdenkzmnf9e3k75xqss4 Hub?

Apparently nostr:nprofile1qqsrf5h4ya83jk8u6t9jgc76h6kalz3plp9vusjpm2ygqgalqhxgp9gpz4mhxue69uhk2er9dchxummnw3ezumrpdejqzyrhwden5te0dehhxarj9ekxzmnyqyt8wumn8ghj7un9d3shjtnwdaehgu3wvfskueq555fk2 is self custodial and all you need to do is open a channel (with nostr:nprofile1qqs0h7ec2h2scduxdtcqfp9xgangpts79lcye6uamzfkge0hp5u32zcpp4mhxue69uhhjctzw5hx6egpp4mhxue69uhkummn9ekx7mqpz3mhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuerpd46hxtnfdu46puj5?)

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LibertyImp 1y ago

Yes you can zap with Zeus but you have to open lighting channel

maven leo 1y ago

Yep, I know you have to open a channel because nostr:nprofile1qqsrf5h4ya83jk8u6t9jgc76h6kalz3plp9vusjpm2ygqgalqhxgp9gpz4mhxue69uhk2er9dchxummnw3ezumrpdejqzyrhwden5te0dehhxarj9ekxzmnyqyt8wumn8ghj7un9d3shjtnwdaehgu3wvfskueq555fk2 has a built-in node

maven leo 1y ago

Thanks 👍

BitBees 1y ago

Yes. You can self-custodial by connecting to Alby’s LNDhub (?) to also run a node, that is the connection. If I understand the whole gig, which is always in question.

maven leo 1y ago

Wait, I thought nostr:nprofile1qqsyv47lazt9h6ycp2fsw270khje5egjgsrdkrupjg27u796g7f5k0spzemhxue69uhk2er9dchxummnw3ezumrpdejz7qgwwaehxw309ahx7uewd3hkctcprdmhxue69uhkummnw3ez6vfwde3x7tnpdenkzmnf9e3k75xqss4 Hub doesn't give you a node and you have to connect a node to it 🤔

BitBees 1y ago

Honestly I am confused. nostr:npub1getal6ykt05fsz5nqu4uld09nfj3y3qxmv8crys4aeut53unfvlqr80nfm what purpose would a self-custodial customer of nostr:npub1xnf02f60r9v0e5kty33a404dm79zr7z2eepyrk5gsq3m7pwvsz2sazlpr5 need you to perform, please help me understand, since I think I may have it wrong?

maven leo 1y ago

I don't think there's any point connecting the 2

Alby 1y ago

We love Zeus, their team is fantastic! 😊 We’ve also integrated the Olympus LSP in our LSP list for private channels.

Zeus is still working on improving their NWC features.

We have them on point💪

With our app connections(NWC), we can enable subscriptions, seamless app integration, and even create subaccounts for yourself, friends, or family, all with a single Alby Hub ⚡.

Best,

BitBees 1y ago

Preesh!

maven leo 1y ago

Will legacy NIP-05s be also sunset in January?

BitBees 1y ago

I am unclear about that.

Bill Cypher 1y ago

Are there instructions for multiple accounts off one albyhub? I couldn't find them yesterday.

I'm trying to decide if I should migrate away from lndhub for my uncle Jim work.

Dikaios1517 1y ago

Depends on what version you are using. The cloud-hosted version is its own node. The one you can install on your Start9 or Umbrel requires you to be running an LND node that it will use for liquidity.

bumi 1y ago

There is the Alby Account with the lightning address, the Alby Extension - those do NOT give you a node. You have to connect a node to those. NWC (Nostr Wallet Connect) is the best spec for that.

Alby Hub comes with a lightning node.

So Alby Hub is the node/wallet/where your sats are and you connect other services (Extension, Account, Nostr Clients, etc.) to that one.

does this explain it?

maven leo 1y ago

Sort of

maven leo 1y ago

Will nostr:nprofile1qqsyv47lazt9h6ycp2fsw270khje5egjgsrdkrupjg27u796g7f5k0spzemhxue69uhk2er9dchxummnw3ezumrpdejz7qgwwaehxw309ahx7uewd3hkctcprdmhxue69uhkummnw3ez6vfwde3x7tnpdenkzmnf9e3k75xqss4 accounts (and Nostr addresses) that are not connected to the Hub be sunset?

bumi 1y ago

no that all continues as is.

Old legacy accounts will just not be able to receive payments without a hub.

maven leo 1y ago

Cool, thanks!

maven leo 1y ago

Alby Hub Cloud comes with a node, not Alby Hub. You still need a node for that, I suppose

bumi 1y ago

You need to run Alby Hub somewhere. This is either on one if your devices like a home server or you can run it in the Alby Cloud. We have a one-click deploy of Alby Hub (the node) there.

( for the hosting we charge)

maven leo 1y ago

So Alby Hub includes the node and it just depends where you run it

maven leo 1y ago

So, you have to run your own node?

BitBees 1y ago

I don’ think you HAVE to, but that is an option, the salient digital point is running a node on your phone via Alby’s power components.

maven leo 1y ago

So, in a nutshell, nostr:nprofile1qqsyv47lazt9h6ycp2fsw270khje5egjgsrdkrupjg27u796g7f5k0spzemhxue69uhk2er9dchxummnw3ezumrpdejz7qgwwaehxw309ahx7uewd3hkctcprdmhxue69uhkummnw3ez6vfwde3x7tnpdenkzmnf9e3k75xqss4 doesn't want to custody your bitcoin any longer 🤔

BitBees 1y ago

But they still can/will, it will now suck 21k Sats 丰 each month outta your stack. It’s not personal Sonny, it’s just business.

Dikaios1517 1y ago

Some of us already run lightning nodes at home (Start9 or Umbrel) and would like to use it as our daily driver for zaps, as well as host wallets with little fuss for our family, who aren't interested in learning how to do self-custody lightning for themselves.

Also, has nostr:npub1xnf02f60r9v0e5kty33a404dm79zr7z2eepyrk5gsq3m7pwvsz2sazlpr5 solved offline receiving for their node-on-the-phone option?

Alby Hub, even in the cloud, lets you do all of the above very easily. I don't think Zeus currently has any way to be an Uncle Jim for your family.

maven leo 1y ago

Don't know if nostr:nprofile1qqsrf5h4ya83jk8u6t9jgc76h6kalz3plp9vusjpm2ygqgalqhxgp9gpz4mhxue69uhk2er9dchxummnw3ezumrpdejqzyrhwden5te0dehhxarj9ekxzmnyqyt8wumn8ghj7un9d3shjtnwdaehgu3wvfskueq555fk2 can receive offline

A Rux 🚴🏿 1y ago

Yes they can on LND bit not on CLN

ZEUS 1y ago

Yes, through our zeuspay Lightning addresses

DeAllen Young 1y ago

You can add your lightning terminal custodial wallet to Zeus and UJ that way. Conversely, you can connect your Alby to Zeus, as well.

maven leo 1y ago

About connecting nostr:nprofile1qqsrf5h4ya83jk8u6t9jgc76h6kalz3plp9vusjpm2ygqgalqhxgp9gpz4mhxue69uhk2er9dchxummnw3ezumrpdejqzyrhwden5te0dehhxarj9ekxzmnyqyt8wumn8ghj7un9d3shjtnwdaehgu3wvfskueq555fk2 to nostr:nprofile1qqsyv47lazt9h6ycp2fsw270khje5egjgsrdkrupjg27u796g7f5k0spzemhxue69uhk2er9dchxummnw3ezumrpdejz7qgwwaehxw309ahx7uewd3hkctcprdmhxue69uhkummnw3ez6vfwde3x7tnpdenkzmnf9e3k75xqss4 ... I suppose you would open a channel on nostr:nprofile1qqsrf5h4ya83jk8u6t9jgc76h6kalz3plp9vusjpm2ygqgalqhxgp9gpz4mhxue69uhk2er9dchxummnw3ezumrpdejqzyrhwden5te0dehhxarj9ekxzmnyqyt8wumn8ghj7un9d3shjtnwdaehgu3wvfskueq555fk2 and then enter the node info on nostr:nprofile1qqsyv47lazt9h6ycp2fsw270khje5egjgsrdkrupjg27u796g7f5k0spzemhxue69uhk2er9dchxummnw3ezumrpdejz7qgwwaehxw309ahx7uewd3hkctcprdmhxue69uhkummnw3ez6vfwde3x7tnpdenkzmnf9e3k75xqss4

A Rux 🚴🏿 1y ago

Not necessarily zeus comes with sn embedded node in their app but thats different to the one you connect toom your node, within the alby hub there are some LSPs are recommended even for smaller amounts which serve well as an initial node connection

Moritz 1y ago

We put a lot of work in making it easy for everybody to take control over their own bitcoin with Alby Hub. More improvements coming soon. Zeus is a great LSP in Alby Hub.

A Rux 🚴🏿 1y ago

Yes indeed its a great solution, btw when i create in albyhub a private connection is it possible within the hub to put in a balance or is it only possible from a wallet outside the hub?

Dikaios1517 1y ago

I think the point was to do it using Zeus's self custody service WITHOUT having to run a node separately.

maven leo 1y ago

If you're using nostr:nprofile1qqsrf5h4ya83jk8u6t9jgc76h6kalz3plp9vusjpm2ygqgalqhxgp9gpz4mhxue69uhk2er9dchxummnw3ezumrpdejqzyrhwden5te0dehhxarj9ekxzmnyqyt8wumn8ghj7un9d3shjtnwdaehgu3wvfskueq555fk2 self-custody service, there's anyway no point to connect it to nostr:nprofile1qqsyv47lazt9h6ycp2fsw270khje5egjgsrdkrupjg27u796g7f5k0spzemhxue69uhk2er9dchxummnw3ezumrpdejz7qgwwaehxw309ahx7uewd3hkctcprdmhxue69uhkummnw3ez6vfwde3x7tnpdenkzmnf9e3k75xqss4

Dikaios1517 1y ago

Not that I am aware of.

DeAllen Young 1y ago

Ah. In that case, as stated elsewhere, just open a lightning channel with Alby, or any node, from Zeus. Look up node addresses on 1m.com

Dikaios1517 1y ago

So... That may improve your self-custodial Zeus wallet/node's liquidity, but it doesn't do anything to enable Alby Hub's features for your Zeus wallet/node.

Moritz 1y ago

#albyhub (albyhub.com) solved offline receiving which is great for receiving zaps 24/7.

You can use it for free on Umbrel or Start9. You can connect your Alby account to Zeus and use Zeus to pay on the go.

Dikaios1517 1y ago

Yes, but when you do this, you are NOT using Zeus's self-custody node - on - the - phone. You are essentially just using Zeus as a mobile interface for your Umbrel or Start9 node.

We have been talking about trying to use the node-on-a-phone option from Zeus with Alby Hub. To my knowledge, there is no way to do this.

Dikaios1517 1y ago

Or rather, as an interface for a particular wallet hosted on your Start9 or Umbrel node.

Moritz 1y ago

You can use an LND node as a funding source for Alby Hub. I don't know if Zeus allows allows such connections.

Dikaios1517 1y ago

A remote LND instance can be a funding source? The only version I know of that uses an existing LND node as a funding source is by installing nostr:npub1getal6ykt05fsz5nqu4uld09nfj3y3qxmv8crys4aeut53unfvlqr80nfm Hub on your Start9 or Umbrel node, but in that case it would be using the local LND instance as the funding source, not a remote one.

Dikaios1517 1y ago

Even IF that was a possibility, the user experience would be pretty rough, since the node it is attached to would not be online 24/7. Node-on-a-phone solutions suffer from mobile operating systems aggressively killing background processes.