Not enough of y’all know about the Bernie progressives and their lack of emphasis on identity politics.
It was the economy, fighting the elite and big banks, populism
Not the “progressive woke” we think of now that took over with Hillary and after
Discussion
Does it matter?
Unless they have a leader emerge who goes in another direction, the face of the current Democrats is the progressive woke mind virus bullshit. So until we see that leader or shift they're going against an increasing number of Americans.
I suppose at some point they'll be forced to pivot.
Is there a progressive paradigm that respects individual rights vs the collective, and protects private property?
My biggest problem with [what I perceive as the progressive platform] is the focus on helping specific groups of people, by violating the rights of individuals.
This is great point. And it's one of the main spectra where the left and right differ - collectivism vs individualism. Fundamentally.
Yes. It's called anarchism.
Bernie calls out the problem well, but his solution is more big government control of financial matters and wealth redistribution through taxation. He completely misses the mark on the solution.
Problem identified, solution can now utilize bitcoin!
nostr:npub1fpcd25q2zg09rp65fglxuhp0acws5qlphpg88un7mdcskygdvgyqfv4sld and nostr:npub12lzwey2hjc2ce0stwa3ldhg04h93wj263lvdhrf87qfzz9jsggeqwuntw2 are going to play a huge role in this, I’m convinced
I used to be a Bernie bro in ‘16 for that reason. Recognized the problem, and at that time I fell for his solutions. Have longed since moved away from them. I bring this up, as I’ve found surprisingly many BTC’ers have had the same story.
It is still redistribution of other people’s money. It doesn’t matter what it’s in the name of or how it’s sold to the public. We are not a collective. We are individuals. The woke stuff is just a lunacy add on to collectivism.
Occupy Wall Street and bitcoin share the same DNA. They were both catalyzed by the gross excesses of the fiat system.
I'm glad y'all are out here spreading the word. 🤙
They tend to be a bit idealistic, but there's something to work with based on mutual aid and non-aggression principles. The disagreement on the use of a state is where we tend to reach impasse.
We know.
Bernie is big government spending utopia bullshit for white college dudes who want to pretend they some Che reincarnate revolutionary because they have no idea how to go build a private company that creates real value for others rather than stealing from productive people because their professors were pathetic failed losers just like them.
Give up on this "progressive" scam that you and this commie chick you keep dragging around are trying to pull. No one fucking wants this commie shit by other names.
Well said sir ✊🤝✌️
You woukdnt call this identity politics would you?