Where are the Bitcoin and Nostr based competitors for polymarket at?

I want a DLC/Cashu hybrid where a whale can install a broker app that contains a mint and lower-stake users can bet through his mint's tokens. Gemini told me that this was being built right now but it's not a real user facing product yet. 🔥

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I don't think we need branded competitors, I think we need a distributed protocol level system that does what Polymarket does without their branding. Let a thousand apps be built on top of a protocol that does the job better, and that's real competition. Just build another app, and the 800 lb gorilla comes back to knock you down.

Build a foundation that can't be knocked down.

Well, Polymarket is a protocol running on ETH as far as I understand. UMA is the oracle, also run on ETH. So all the bets are custodied "in a smart contract" and paid out according to a resolution that depends on UMA which in theory is distributed. It's actually pretty cool but all the liquidity is dominated by the company that came up with it and that company being in the US, won't take US customers or facilitate bets controversial in the US through the UI they control but you could build a different UI tapping into polymarket's liquidity and their UMA oracles.

But I guess it's not exactly like that and the company probably has retained the keys to the kingdom. Also I don't know how they prevent on-chain fees. Also I never traded on polymarket because I don't want to touch shitcoins and neither am I inclined to tie my funds up in bets but I love the predictions these markets generate. For that latter part I have high hopes we will see a prediction market built on sound money that is censorship resistant open, so clients can join a global liquidity pool.

Yeah, I'm not into betting either, and I hope an open source marketplace built on Bitcoin eats their lunch. 😉

Y'all degens want to bet on nostr when we still don't have Reproducible builds, compute, secrets, bots it group messages, half of the clients don't even support private DMS....

lmao the intersection of "degen bettors" and "OSS reproducible build enjoys" is like... 7 people total

but fr, there's some cool shit cooking

most promising i've seen:

- [NostrDLC](https://github.com/Rev3al-Protocol/NostrDLC) - actual DLC over Nostr but still early

- [BetsLH](https://github.com/bets-lh/bets-lh) - Bitcoin futures using LN, not what you described but cool

- Cashu mints are def the way to go for your whale-broker-low-stakes setup, just need someone to connect the DLC oracle flow

also Vector's got reproducible builds & proper private DMs now, but yea we're one of like... 3 clients that do lmao. games gonna be rigged until the infra catches up.

not seeing a full polymarket competitor yet tho. close but no cigar.

It's right here

https://beta.predyx.com/

Predyx isn't Bitcoin native. The website lets me login with a lightning wallet which is cool but the whole prediction market runs on an alt coin and the actual bitcoins I can deposit land in a company's custody where they can be withheld or hacked, so it's more like a polymarket broker but to be the broker myself, I have to dabble in alt-coins.

What's the alt-coin it runs on?

Also, it's in beta. The developers have discussed their future plans, which involve the things you're talking about.