#AskNostr

CALLING NETWORK GURUS - PLEASE HELP A BROTHER OUT! Bounty available for any hero that suggests something leading to a fix!

Last week my home network suddenly started showing certain devices as 'connected / no internet access'. It seems to only be affecting mobile phones (iPhone and Androids), tablets and the TV. My Linux machine and Macbook are not being affected whatsoever, nor are any ethernet devices like my nodes and security cameras.

When these devices show the error, there is nothing apparent that causes it. There is also nothing apparent that allows them to connect again and function normally (for a short time at least).

Today my ISP sent me a new router, but that did not fix the issue. There has been no devices added or removed from the network in recent weeks that coincide with the problem starting. Finally, I tried setting a static IP on the router for one of the problem devices, but that made no difference.

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Can you install a terminal app one of the Android devices and see if you can ping out to the internet (8.8.8.8 or similar). This sounds like DNS is getting messed with.

Do you do any whitelisting of MAC addresses? The mobile devices change their MAC addresses often.

Very likely a DNS issue.

Yeah I can try on my pixel tomorrow morning. I've not touched any MAC related settings on any affected devices or at the router level.

There is now a full Linux terminal on Pixel devices. I highly recommend it!

https://www.howtogeek.com/how-to-use-pixel-hidden-linux-terminal/

Do you have any new electronics in the house? They could be interfering.

Afraid not.

When the devices do have internet, check there ips and make sure they are in range.

2.4 or 5g?

dude!

my mobile devices have been doing the same thing and I've been tearing my hair out for a fix.

do we both (by chance)

have Mullvad VPN set on the router?

I have a SBC acting as router and every interface that goes to Mullvad has this problem.

I have other interfaces that arent forced through VPN and they're unaffected.

ill contribute towards a bounty if its the same problem.

I had some server issues with mullvad in the last few days 🤔 many servers were down at some point. seems to be solved by now though

I don't have anything set at the router level. Across the affected devices I have a mix of mullvad, proton vpn, and two will no vpn at all.

very weird.

will update if i learn anything ❤️

The new mullvad update is causing the issue.

I changed back to 2 versions.

All good now.

Ditch Routers/WiFi. Get an unlimited 5G data plan, and use your phone as a hotspot when you need to access internet on your pc.

I already have an unlimited data plan, but work from home so it's not really feasible tether my phone all day every day.

Why not?

Mobile signal is patchy at home for starters.

I don't experience any issues.

Right, but to my knowledge we don't live in the same location :D

Some devices may have problems with IPv6. Try disabling IPv6 in the router settings and see if that helps (Modifying the DNS server directly on the router could also be something that works).

On the affected devices, go to the Wi-Fi settings, "forget" the network, and then enable MAC Spoofing if available, and reconnect by entering the password again.

Try temporarily switching to a less restrictive security setting (like WPA) to see if that resolves the issue.

Try connecting one of the problematic devices to a mobile hotspot (like your phone's) to check if the issue is specific to your network.

Make sure DHCP is enabled on the router. This allows the router to automatically assign IP addresses to connected devices.

I know it uses DCHP as I've seen it when poking around in settings today. I'll test the rest out in the morning. Thanks so much for the input.

Try setting the router's power like this:

Channel 149

Channel width of 80MHz

30 dBm power

I'll have a poke around, but I don't think I have that level of granularity in the settings.

you'll need to use process of elimination.

first, does the problem device have a connection to the local network? (sounds like yes). is it in the same IP range as your other working devices?

then, check dns, can the device connect to or ping an outside ip address? (if yes, the problem is DNS)

find what DNS servers the devices are using, vs. the working machines. (if different,

Network people know

It’s always dns

Yep, everyone seems to be coalescing onto DNS problems and I have many things to test and try today. Thanks so much for chiming in!

You don't have an open source router? 👀

I thought the same thing

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1) Newer mobile phones support MAC address randomization per default. There should be 3 settings for your SSID:

- use per-connection randomized MAC

- use per-network randomized MAC

- use device MAC

Try 2nd or 3rd, it may help.

2) It could also be related to using "private DNS mode" in the "Network & Internet" settings menu. Try switching it off.

3) Can you access your routers' internal IP in a Browser on your phone, i.e. http://192.168.0.1? If yes, it looks like a DNS issue.

Thanks for this. Will do some testing later!

Wouldn't personally use ISP router, get a good router that you can customize and control, use ISP router for it's internet access only.

Been on my to-do list for years, but I fucking despise network shit so have put it off for way too long. Perhaps this is my comeuppance.

I am curious because this happens to me in the office, I always figured it had to do with IoT (internet of things).

There was a time where people would simply help out without the need for a bribe, I miss those days. 😞