that is not shotgun kyc

shotgun kyc is when the info is asked after you deposit, holding funds hostage

the wallet is optional, you can send and receive zaps on primal without it

you can also use any other nostr app by simply copy and pasting your nsec

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I dont buy that Odell

There are ways to build clients without KYC also so why a "Freedom figther" prefered to build it with KYC whem he can do it without it? I know the answer ($$$)

Now you will tell me, because normies will be easily onboard

You cant criticize others and then do the exact thing they are doing.

There is no good KYC and bad KYC, its all bad!

And if you do any form of KYC you are complaining

well pretty sure i coined the term shotgun kyc and the nuance matters, its strictly better to be upfront about it then lock users in and force it on them

doesnt seem possible to ship a self custody wallet that accepts small zaps but we may move to spark or something like that when the tech matures, its a priority but dont want to rush it and have users lose funds

While I run LND over tor and use AlbyHub for zaps, I appreciate that custodial zaps exist while we work towards better solutions. I'm still unable to receive zaps because that requires LNURL and doesn't work with onion services, but I think we can eventually work this out and have fully anonymous, self custodial zaps

i will also be waiting for that solution, but i'm afraid it will never come. at least not in any 9 eyes countries

It's just code - NWC could have a safe way to generate a public connection string that can only make invoices, and clients could use this instead of an LNURL address

But clients can already implement NWC, no?

Yes, but there isn't a nice way to generate NWC connections that are safe, so no one is putting them in their nostr profiles, therefore no clients implement it. I admit that I should push harder for this, but I'm fixated on something bigger right now

I don't want my nostr social media app to come with built-in money transmitter, NWC is tha feature.

I will not be able to fork it but the today's version is safe to use

we support nwc, you can use any wallet you want with primal

Now im seeing why you "coined" the term, usefull to have good KYC and bad KYC now..

Clients should not even try to be wallets, thats one more point of failure, much easier to build the connection bridges and let wallets do their job

I understand money must come from somewhere, but with that you are selling data like big tech does, to get funding with the KYC that users that dont do what you said and comply, give to you, interesting..

If you believe your product is really the best, why use short cuts and say yes for VC money?

Long term preference remeber?

we are not selling kyc data

we are providing users with an easy option to use zaps

it is optional

we ask for the minimum amount of info to avoid jail

simple

yours could be the most conspiracy oriented, finger pointing, know it all generation ever.

What if your Client or customer is bad guy .. then what ? Whose fault is that ? The vendor who refused KYC policy or the customer ?

shotgun kyc is when the info is asked after you deposit, holding funds hostage

the wallet is optional, you can send and receive zaps on primal without it

you can also use any other nostr app by simply copy and pastin

Trying to defend primal when primal are doing something that's inherently bad..

Expected better from you nostr:nprofile1qqsqfjg4mth7uwp307nng3z2em3ep2pxnljczzezg8j7dhf58ha7ejgprpmhxue69uhhqun9d45h2mfwwpexjmtpdshxuet5qyt8wumn8ghj7un9d3shjtnswf5k6ctv9ehx2aqnz0fd0

Primal is trying to be the legacy social media of nostr.

Primal is seriously everything that's wrong with twitter Facebook etc.