One of Russia's largest oil refineries.
It's not hard to stop Russia. Blow up their economic infrastructure, and (ideally) kill the staff working at these plants, and their economy will collapse and the killing will stop.
War is expensive. Russia can't fight without a profitable economy.
Attacking economic infrastructure like refineries might seem like a quick way to weaken Russia, but the consequences ripple globally. Oil is a cornerstone of the global economy, and disrupting its supply can spike prices, impacting everyone—especially Western nations that rely heavily on imports. Wdyt?
Russia produces ~10% of world oil. That's not very significant.
Indeed, one possible way this war is ended is simply by Trump convincing the Saudis to pump more to push prices below the level at which Russian oil is profitable to export.
This is an incredibly bad take. One does not just generate 10% global oil supply from existing conventional oil & gas production sources. If 10% came off the market, it would take awhile to ramp up the Canadian oil sands and American shale oil to close the gap. Oil would get crippling expensive in the intermediary many, many months.
Saudi Arabia is believed to have about 3% of world oil demand in spare capacity that can be rapidly activated. UAE is another ~1%, and Iraq and Kuwait together another 1%. That alone would replace half of Russia's entire production. Which is exactly why convincing Saudi Arabia to produce more oil could do significant harm to Russia.
Russia disappearing tomorrow wouldn't be a big deal.
Anyway, if you're actually worried about that, you should have been preparing for it years ago. It was obvious to anyone with a brain that Ukraine can defeat Russia, and that Russian oil and gas production is highly vulnerable.
This is just one of dozens of videos of Russian oil infrastructure getting blown up that has come out in the past month:
https://video.nostr.build/ef1e4374383a47d83f18ef2a105bfcbbccea987dfd75297e87760c6f1829eaca.mp4
Sites all over Russia are getting successfully hit by Ukrainian drones.
Saudi Arabia and others could replace up to half of Russia's oil production, but deploying spare capacity risks straining their economies. A leaked Trump peace plan suggests Ukraine stays neutral, joins the EU by 2030, and recognizes Russian sovereignty over occupied territories. If Ukraine is "winning," why accept these terms? #Ukraine #Russia #PeacePlan #Trump #Oil #Geopolitics
This is just not accurate for a number of reasons.
The US doesn’t want Saudi to have any more influence than they already do, for starters. Not to mention that after 80 years of producing, their oil fields don’t have the technical capacity to ramp up and down like they used to. The fields are nearing their decline curve.
Further, the oil price can’t go up … at all. In fact, it needs to go down … a lot … for Trump to “win” his fight against inflation. Trump will not allow 10% of the global oil market be disrupted. Even for 3-6 months.
Russia wins vs. Ukraine. Always was going to win. Trump is signaling that he expects it will resolve soon. Ukraine is willing to give up territory. Russia is signaling they’re okay if reasonable demands are met.
Never should have pushed NATO as far as we did. American hubris didn’t appreciate its limits.
While Russia produces ~10% of the world's oil, its impact on global diesel supply is disproportionate due to its high diesel output. Saudi Arabia’s budgets rely on oil prices at ~$80/barrel, so convincing them to pump more below $60 risks their own financial stability.
The Saudis are not going to go against OPEC and pump more unless the price dictates it however.
Exactly. 100x better solution then blowing up Russian refineries and killing everyone who ever worked there.
A very WWI & WWII style solution. 🫡
Maby it helps. The sad thing is that the strategy is similar to the one of Ruzzland, to attack civil infrastructure.
But defnitly it is important to stop the regime of putin from invading upcoming democracies and hindering them from freeing their society.
It's not civil infrastructure if it's paying for a genocidal invasion.
Since a double digit % of Russia's GDP is going to war, no economic infrastructure in Russia is civil. It's all valid military targets.
it is general words. but how exactly?
and what if their society is totally ok with the regime?
it is not the putin who raping women in the occupied territories.
Yes for sure there is just no solution that is soft, since there is a dirty war ongoing. And in general I also go with Peter.
I only think often it is a thin line of defending the country, to doing the same crulty to russians as they do to ukrain, which feeds tha propaganda of Russia.
But to be clear I stand with Ukraine and hope they win back every single square meter of their land. To show the world, that no country can win land with force and profit of it.
> To show the world, that no country can win land with force and profit of it.
Unfortunately it is not going to happen. the strongest wins and people's morals are fickle too. if someone encroached on american territory they would be burned in every possible way and no one would even try to feel sorry for the attackers. but if it's a small country it's suddenly different.
Yes this two measures is quiet a mental stretch from what onelaccepts for the own country to what one accepts for other countries.
In my mind there is only one moral baseline. And this is the same if it is applied to an arab, asiatic, a european or american person. Since I beleave all humans have many things in common and very little differences where a violent conflict could be legitimate.
"Thus, as a result of shelling over the past 24 hours at least 6 people were killed and 36 others were wounded."
this is from yesterday's war bulletin. in one day 6 civilans dead. at the same time I've heard here many times arguments like - "Putin has its reason", "It's because of NATO expansions", "stop funding Ukraine". with effective propaganda, you can do anything with moral baseline
Yes this I also have heared. But I feel bad for people who beleave these arguments. I think who acts in a warcrime should not hope for support. And who defends has every legitimation to do this. I support Ukraine until they get back the last inch of their land.
That's really nice to hear
i would say who controls narrative wins. for example - remember that hype around biden allowing ukraine to strike inside russia. OMG, Joe Rogan says fuck Zelensky it is world war 3. what? why when russia strikes ukraine daily it is ok but in other direction it is suddenly WW3
I would argue that who is able to build his own arguments based on logic wins. Since a logic argument can be understood and reformed independently, where a misunderstanding can be debunked.
so why Peter gets his daily dose of hate just following pure logic ) it is depends how you define "win".
btw. what is noticable is that most of the bitcoin influencers avoid sensitive topics like war in ukraine or palestine. or they say something very general and simple. except Peter. interesting, right?
If a person has the ability to reason, the war in ukraine is a fairly simple topic, everything is simple and clear there. but nevertheless "influencers" are afraid to speak their mind because most likely they will find themselves criticized like Peter )
Dr Strangetodd curiously negates retaliatory action within his bizarre model. #OnEscalation
you are right but two problems
- it takes time and work, russia is huge, you need half a year of such strikes
- those who have the means to do so still don't understand what russia is
Next steps should be to stop Russia from being able to get access to any raw materials- oil, gold and minerals, from anywhere in the world and be able transfer them back into Russia.
