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I've been to the Houston control center for the moon landing and I can tell you: we didn't go. It was a Gov sponsored mirage.

The viewing room of mission control is Disney Land circa 1960s. The space lander is tinfoil around aluminum beams. The entire religion falls apart under any amount of inspection.

What other technology from the 60s hasn't become more affordable (in real terms) and more advance? Why was all the telemetry data from the moon landing, which could be analyzed by scientists and AI today, "lost"? And the questions go on and on.

This is not complex: the NASA/Gov op looks fake because it was television. A great cold war drama designed and executed for our benefit.

We've never left low orbit.

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dvo 4mo ago

I can’t seem to get enough podcast talks on this topic now. looking for more recommendations

Nige 4mo ago

What ones can you recommend? I wanna dive in

dvo 4mo ago

this is what got me starting down this recently

would love to find more

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dvo 4mo ago

actually episodes107,108,139,140,141. I had watched them in that order 🐇

ghostnode 4mo ago

I’m open minded and listening. I just tend towards the infinite worlds theory and a spinning magnet in a vacuum that wobbles and flops its dipole moments.

Basically I can’t believe flat earth because I believe geomagnetic excursion causing cyclical mass extinction.

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7958179/

Stacking Functions 4mo ago

Props to you. Gently set your beliefs to the side, listen with an open mind, then pick back up any beliefs that still suit you

Neo ⚡️ 4mo ago

Why should they build this stage, just leave it there and then on top decades later even give random people access to it?

☕ Shitlord 10000, with a HARD R 4mo ago

Youll never get an answer to that 🤣

Condor 4mo ago 💬 1

The telemetry has not been lost. Where did this info came out?

Mr. Sat Stacker 4mo ago

Do a quick internet search.

Condor 4mo ago

Quick internet search give imperfect information if not total bullshit. They only lost some raw video tapes of one single mission. Years ago a company recovered almost all the telemetry after recovering and fixing the old recorders able to read the tapes.

Weatherall 4mo ago 💬 1

even wikipedia contradicts you:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_11_missing_tapes

wheres your source for the claim you make in the last sentence because I am fidning nothing when searching for that?

Trivium 4mo ago

I've personally used these...

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_retroreflectors_on_the_Moon

Weatherall 4mo ago

Yes this presents a problem ostensibly…

I haven’t done a deep dive on that one but as far as I can tell the two most trumpeted responses to that, from the denier community, are that the same thing has been accomplished without such aids, using just the surface properties. And it seems this checks out - though someone countered with an argument about the precision differences. And the other objection suggests that the reflectors were placed there later, or perhaps by other nations ‘in on it’…

definitely something I need to dig a bit deeper into before concluding defeat though…

Laser 4mo ago 💬 1

"They were taped over."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fCygZNtp-WQ

Weatherall 4mo ago

glad to see someone else posting about the "they were taped over" jaw-dropper...

🤡🌎

Laser 4mo ago

"The data is missing."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4SfQYApr44

Condor 4mo ago

Ask yourself why searching google only this info comes up and nothing about the recovery of the tapes they did years ago. I do not trust google especially when the answer is the same exact into repeated by the mainstream sites over and over again. There were many missions, only the videos received via radio of the landing were lost, nothing else.

☕ Shitlord 10000, with a HARD R 4mo ago

Thats all these nuts do...cherry pick one thing and blow it waaasy the fuck outta proportion

Same ol.

Condor 4mo ago

I see they are deleting from Internet a lot of information. Very few buy books and a single search engine will be able to change the totality of information available to the public.

☕ Shitlord 10000, with a HARD R 4mo ago

Bat shit crazy

paxchristi 4mo ago

Didn’t Nvidia prove they landed on the moon using ray tracing?

Danny P 4mo ago 💬 4

It’s hard to imagine so many people involved and not one whistleblower has come out in 40 years… but also, how the fuck do they “lose” all the telemetry data? That just doesn’t happen, and brings nothing but doubt. Amazing opsec if we really didn’t go

☕ Shitlord 10000, with a HARD R 4mo ago

Its total bullshit thats shitting on everything great we as a nation has accomplished. Fuck em halfway to hell.

Detective Deft Defector 4mo ago

Bill Kaysing, Bart Sibrel, Thomas Baron. I don't know the truth but their stories sure look like breadcrumbs. Or Bill and Bart were full of shit and Barron was an awful driver. It's hard to tell what the government will do to protect the narrative in clown world. There are still people saying the vaccine saved lives so like... 🤷

Laser 4mo ago

Greatest achievement by all mankind.

"Trust me bro"

☕ Shitlord 10000, with a HARD R 4mo ago

That comes from some joker that cant even put together a coherent argument and always,like every nutcase outthere ever, fallback on posting youtube videos?

"trust me bro" 🤪

Get the fuck outtahere

Telluride 4mo ago

Have the Russian ever publicly called us out? I feel like they’d know. —I also suppose we’d call it propaganda and nobody would believe them anyway.

Laser 4mo ago

Here's a good whistleblower:

https://archive.org/details/full-size-render_20210714

Danny P 4mo ago

Wtf, Stanley Kubrick said he filmed it?? How have I never seen this. Watching as soon as I get to my hotel

Danny P 4mo ago

Seriously, if the moon landing was really faked, that’s something the govt can NEVER recover from (disregarding all other BS that they can’t recover from) and maybe (finally) most of the country would agree govt needs to be cut down to the studs…

Laser 4mo ago 💬 2

The Moon Landing is the original "Trust Me Bro."

It's heretical to question the moon landing but also there's no scientific data because... (It didn't happen).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4SfQYApr44

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ARVIN 4mo ago

https://archive.org/details/full-size-render_20210714

magnum 4mo ago

Once you look at the evidence it seems totally improbable, we went to the moon. It would be like inventing the car and then losing the technology to make another car.

Stacking Functions 4mo ago

Just the technology for Nixon to be able to call the astronauts on the moon from a whitehouse landline (with no delay) should be enough for people with decent iq's

Telluride 4mo ago 💬 1

Recently (like the last four years) I’ve come to realize most of things I’ve been taught about economics, medicine, nutrition and history have been a lie with simple explainable incentives.

Im leaning heavily towards the likelihood that we probably didn’t land on the moon and probably couldn’t have landed on the moon with 1970’s tech.

₿en Wehrman 4mo ago

https://youtu.be/1bj7QHby69s

Leviticus Mathew 4mo ago

Yes to your first point, but I think we DID because there are now many more images of the landing site with stuff we left behind. Plus I know some dudes that did the laser bounce thing.

Telluride 4mo ago 💬 1

Everything you just described requires me trusting someone else’s word. Like most science, you have to trust your teachers.

I used to. A healthy society can and should.

Then I realized that our society is not healthy or homogeneous and my teachers teachers were also lied to. It’s turtles all the way down for god knows how long.

🧡👊🏻🍻

Leviticus Mathew 4mo ago

Oh no. You're a flat earther too?

Telluride 4mo ago

I can watch how that’s calculated and reproduce those experiments without advanced laser tech.

Also common sense.

Your analogy is weak stick.

—Ive got better things to do than argue with you so I’m cool with muting you and its like you don’t even exist. A productive argument is not what you’re presenting. And you’re being a dick.

Byeee

Comte de Sats Germain 4mo ago

🤔 I don't see how he's being a dick...

Its good that you're skeptical - reproduce the laser thing. Do it yourself. Idk how, but you're the skeptic, so figure it out. And vlog it.

Telluride 4mo ago

Ikr

I think my actual point isn’t that ill be reinventing every wheel experiment ever, but rather that I approach everything with a negative lens now because my government has betrayed me and I distrust everything now.

Instead, I’ll position myself in a way as to not fall for these gimmicks moving forward.

Mainly prescribed meds, vaccines, poison foods etc.

I no longer have time for nonsense if I’m feeding myself and family with sovereign efforts.

🧡👊🏻🍻

Comte de Sats Germain 4mo ago

Good, positive energy, I like it

Comte de Sats Germain 4mo ago

He says he wasn't trying to be a dick, seems cool, I think you should unmute him. Telluride is a cool dude too, I follow him. Kiss and make up. Kissey kissey, no homo but c'mon

Telluride 4mo ago

Done.

Apology accepted.

I had a long day. It was probably me anyway. I can’t remember why i was annoyed now ha

🍻🍻👊🏻🧡

Jeff 4mo ago

Go take physics, chemistry and biology 101 at your local community college - thinking things are simple is where you’ve dropped the ball - get a proof of work base view of reality and shit will start making sense.

DevinNButterBall 4mo ago

Would be really interesting if the landing site was visible from a telescope

Telluride 4mo ago

Supposedly it is…

Case closed. 🙄

DevinNButterBall 4mo ago

Ya not exactly convincing

Comte de Sats Germain 4mo ago

Did you expect it to be made of concrete or i-beams or what? Aluminum foil, or whatever kind of foil, makes sense. It had to be light weight.

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₿en Wehrman 4mo ago

If you know anyone who still believes we landed on the moon, send them this video.

It's the ultimate destroyer of the biggest hoax of all time, and opens the door to lots of even bigger questions 👇

https://youtu.be/1bj7QHby69s

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OΞHI ⚡️🧡 (111k Gang) 4mo ago

Why are all the astronauts freemasons

hodlpleb 4mo ago

so what is the plan for all these future moon and mars missions? more smoke & mirrors? seems too many eyes on it now to totally fake it.

king 4mo ago

#it'sa🤡🌎

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youngMoney 4mo ago

Im not convinced either way

Just don’t or think that’s it super important to know the truth on this