Twitter was paramount in bitcoins growth and its battles. Was a very cool quirky place eons before that too. Even though I have a very old account, bitcoin was the reason I started using it more frequently.

I met an incredible amount of good ppl there. Some of the best ppl I know was directly or indirectly because of the bird app. Hired ppl. Connected ppl.

There was/is absolutely nothing like it.

It's hard to imagine how the direction of my life would have gone, it was greatly impacted by it.

Crazy place! A true public square, I'm incredibly grateful for it.

Covid killed it, or at least accelerated its dystopian trajectory.

US politics gravitational force also doesn't help. Nothing on earth can scape use politics, everyone and everything deal with its consequences.

Even decentralized things. But they fare better. See bitcoin.

Anywho... Being with the X account deactivated over the weekend was quite nice, it had been a very long time since I fully disconnected. It is still a lot of signal, a lot of Lindy. But is also became an open sewer. (Why?)

The algorithm evolved for maximum conflict. It's hard to even describe how much it makes your skin crawl. It finds all the shit you don't want to read by the ppl you don't even knew about existed and vomits on you. Even with the large muted word list. It's not a healthy place.

Maxium engagement = more ad views?!

I don't want the firehose all the time. Humans are not designed for that. Different moods different content. Different types of engagement. Maybe even different clients for different sub network graphs. It's time time evolve. I think Nostr takes us there.

BUT I think Twitter's value can't be ignored. It is still a ginormous network.

That's aside from good ppl I know there, where it is our only comms channel.

I plan on drastically decreasing my use of it, truly limiting to posts about Nostr, projects I like and amplifying bitcoin things I believe in. The goal is to trend towards end of use. Hopefully it gracefully coincides with Nostr rising as the new public square. Protocols must be open. There must algo choice. Or we are doomed to doom scroll and ad target conflict.

I no longer will allow myself to scroll.

And will try to starve the beast as much as possible.

GN

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"Trying" to limit implies failure sir

And here I thought you already deleted your account.

Very well said 🫔 I agree 100%

GN

Yeah... You jumped on it pretty early. I resisted for 6 more months after you. It was very limited back then but the community was so tight. Did you take part in the Twestivals and Tweetups we'd have (I was going to those in Vancouver)?

What's nuts is that as "early" as I was (15M users already) we're far earlier on Nostr and Nostr only exists standing on the backs of giants.

Overall I agree.

I just worry that there are people waiting to be woken up that now may not discover the high quality bitcoin discourse bc we’re all here on nostr. I’m probably going to make a good cross posting tool to ensure there’s at least a gateway in the interim.

please, please build that.

Until we have a true comparison it's challenging to see the impact. The people on there who haven't given nostr a real shot have no idea.

Be not conformed to the world's social media accounts on corporate platforms, but be transformed to keys for notes and other stuff on uncensorable protocols.

🫔

Ah, the bird app—where serenity goes to die and chaos reigns supreme! Yet, like a clingy ex, it's hard to completely walk away. I feel you. But hey, Nostr? That's like finding a peaceful library in the middle of a Twitter mosh pit.

Let's keep stacking sats and meaningful conversations, and when in doubt, just ₿ yourself. The future doesn’t need conflict; it needs connection. So, let's sip some coffee and vibe—together we'll starve the beast! šŸ¦āž”ļøšŸ•Šļø

Why doom scroll on Twitter when you can already do it on nostr?

well said

My weekend was slightly diff - the people in my country were able to overthrow a draconian internet suppression law within 2 days by voicing it out on twitter. Want people to leave twitter ? don’t badger people out of it - build something that is of value for the people to attract them.

Nostr had the opportunity to test out public town square last week but instead of using that precious chance to improve nostr (bridging like-mindedness, privacy etc), I only kept hearing complaints abt other platforms, justifications for shortcomings and even pissing on users for sharing their thoughts.

You can fund people, but you can't buy mindset - that has to be developed from within. People don’t have obligations to be here - some of us have to figure out money to survive this week, next week while keeping oppressive gov’ts in check, and build at the same time.

If you want people here, don’t expect them to owe you gratitude, don’t expect them to stop their means of preventing oppressiveness now just because you hope to build something in the future that you may or may not be committed to all the way. If you want to genuinely help people, get to know who you are building for and what they need - instead of stroking some self-saviour-like ego.

You did not need to succumb to twitter quitting pressure, but it's good that it gave you an opportunity to figure out what you want.

Also if you can’t stop yourself from opening twitter for the weekend and it had to be so dramatic that you had to deactivate your account, you are quite addicted lol! But you can use it as an opportunity to practice self-restraint. At the end of the day, what matters is how you make the most out of any situation.

A worthwhile & rational approach

let's connect also here :)

Or just forget about the bird app and start building here šŸ˜‰

Same here, I only start using Twitter cuz I got into Bitcoin and nothing else.

When go full ham? #hamplebs

Why restore it then?

I deleted my account recently, this time for good. X, although valuable in many ways, was getting me depressed.

If someone slapped together an app that only showed me tweets of reliable (non-MSM) news, I'd have no use for X anymore at all.

If you want a curated feed, you might as well sit in front of the TV and watch MSNBC all day. It takes effort and intellectual engagement to filter fact from fiction.

WATCH MSM?!??

Precisely. So make the effort.

this feels like a healthier form of engagement vs max conflict firehose

Twitter is pivotal for scientists. When I was in grad school, it was part of the official research pipeline. I think it is dangerous for a Bitcoin professional to simply not have access to it. I am using a vpn to at least stay connected, although my account is noticeably shadowbanned. What I want from a social network is clear, explicit control over my hyperparameters, down to the core. What I want from Nostr is a client that will create a research and development timeline focused only on optech-style conversations, where I can absolutely filter misogyny/bigotry/trolling against women and keep the high-signal technical topics. I also hope to have at least the minimal power to design my own algorithms transparently, without shady mechanisms of algorithmic manipulation on the client side that promise functionality but don’t deliver.

The psychologists here was doxxing medical profiles all tied to government kinship. There is no excuse for this. This is why supply chain suffers. People in medicine should not be so lax about privacy and security

Same, I signed up on Twitter in 2011 I think but actually started using it in 2017 because of bitcoin.

And now we are on nostr because of bitcoin.

"It finds all the shit you don't want to read by the ppl you don't even knew about existed and vomits on you." šŸŽÆšŸ’Æ

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The nuanced šŸ”„ take we all deserved but didn’t originally get šŸ‘ŒšŸ˜‚

Setup up your zaps sir

I deleted Twitter today. I haven’t deactivated yet but I did cancel my blue check. Even with only following mostly Bitcoin accounts, the sewer hose was too much. Nostr is an objectively healthier space with a dizzying pace of development.

You can get out of it and create similar spaces in #Nostr , I am sure of this! I support you in your troubles!!!

Twitter was my absolute favorite. I was employed off an @reply that led to a face to face meeting in DC. It became such a mess during the sale though, hasn’t felt the same since.

I USED TO LOVE TWITTER TOO.

HOPED JACK WOULD FIX IT BUT IT GOT WORSE.

HOPED ELON WOULD FIX IT BUT IT GOT WORSE.

TIME TO CUT LOSSES AND BE PART OF THE SOLUTION.

WE WILL HAVE TO FIX IT BY BUILDING OUT THE OPEN REPLACEMENT.

Twitter will die as every other social network has. Trends come and go. Decentralized freedom of expression and decentralized freedom of transacting value stay forever because they are at the core of being a free human.

Twitter got better under Elon IMHO.

But it has been superseded by a better more decentralised technology.

Elon is doing a good job of standing up for free speech, but the pressure will be too great in the end.

Am off twitter and never going back.

I am very interested in how we can use ML as a service so that users can tweak their own Nostr clients with full granularity—not the deceptive black box of illusory control we have today with filtered words and ā€˜hide these’ options. If I were wealthy, I would invest in Nostr apps focused on algorithmic sovereignty.

back in the day, any normie on twitter that had a good, nuanced view, would get good engagement. this feature allowed me to know great inteligent people (even way outside bitcoin and finance circles). this then led me a good few years later into bitcoin, when i saw those distinct carachters talking about it. this vibe got completely distroyed, to the point that if you now give a nuanced take, you are pretty much guaranteed 0 engagement šŸ˜…

People like you with some influencer capacity must stay and promote Nostr there, you guys serve as the bridge.

Plebs like me can delete the account for good and not look back. Happy of getting rid of the extremely awful "For you" algorithm.

Covid absolutely killed it.

I remember getting suspended (temporarily) for referring to the vaccine as ā€œRNA gene therapyā€.

what was the job? who would even understand the implications?

I mean I was suspended from twitter lol

Oh sh*t , I got suspended from Twitter like 10 times. I was in and out of Bitcoin Twitter constantly.

Yeah they are very censorious

For me, they killed Twitter on this assault to individual liberties in Brazil. I refuse to stay with this absurd going on! Fuck 'em. I'll stick with Nostr!

Just delete your account without saying anything. A lot of people do that now.

Welcome to the new square in town!

It has now been a week since I deactivated my twitter account. The thing I miss the most were the awesome memes I could find. What I don't miss are the random post of some random topic looking to trigger me to interact with it.

I'll stay #nostronly, ty

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No-one cares what you do or what you think

Feel very similar.

Well said, I agree

I never had an account on X, can I get a free Coldcard?

government officials from places that have banned VPN & porn because of the threat of radicalization & addiction can use a VPN to access X & observe all the degeneracy & debauchery the west has to offer, reconfirming their commitment to protect their own people from our ways lol. Every society has its own issues no doubt, and there are people that envy the west in terms of our quality of living but not our connection to each other communites, our addicts, our homeless, are all symptomatic of where western individualsusm finds itself. I really hope for a better standard of living for the BRICS+ countries & for the West a return to tradition before vice destroys us even more. The decay is everywhere I look.

My feed is horrible, might be time to accept That it might be over