signal is not perfect but offers a pretty awesome tradeoff balance: great ux, reliable, strong privacy guarantees
matrix does not have auto delete messages and the apps are shit
simplex is solid but reliability and ux could be better
keet is not open source
whitenoise is promising but early
Keet is cooler and will be open source, and on desktop you can already grab all the code
Keet is also getting disappearing messages in about a month
Keychat is dope.
I have never successfully started at KC chat with anyone except nostr:npub1h0uj825jgcr9lzxyp37ehasuenq070707pj63je07n8mkcsg3u0qnsrwx8
i use the KC browser everyday but I think you need your counterparty to be on their relay with sats in the ecash wallet to actually chat
I have no problems whatsoever, but the counter party has to use Keychat too. Any relay I think even though why not use theirs
And the best thing, push notifications properly work. All the time.
Oddly, even with an empty Keychat wallet and no access to the Keychat relay, messages are still routed through other free relays. The other user must be on Keychat.
You can also install Keychat Desktop, create a new ID, and add that ID to your phone’s Keychat to test.
I'll double check my counterparties are using it
Element X works kind of nice, but yeah, I am missing a better UX overall on desktop and anywhere outside Element X for matrix.
For me it is the best option though. Open source, decentralised, and I get to guard my own key to messages.
Apps… not great but usable. To me, my daily use tool. What do you pick for secure private chatting? nostr:npub1qny3tkh0acurzla8x3zy4nhrjz5zd8l9sy9jys09umwng00manysew95gx
Deltachat is interesting.
its Openpgp and not Signal encryption.
so no perfect forward secrecy
but e2ee chats over email?!
Not Another Protocol™ ?
and its extremely easy to spin of an email server
so you can have your selfhosted strong encrypted messages and hide metadata without dealing with Simplex relays and usability.
I’ve been using simplex for some time and I’m very happy with it. Has tradeoffs? Yes. But also way better privacy
Signal without phone number would also be something to consider for better UX
I thought they open sourced keet, no?
Session.
So freaking usable. No PFS but it's Anon so good enough. At least it works.
nostr:nprofile1qqsqfjg4mth7uwp307nng3z2em3ep2pxnljczzezg8j7dhf58ha7ejgpzemhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuurjd9kkzmpwdejhgqgewaehxw309aek2mnyd96zumn0wdnxcctjv5hxxmmdqyv8wumn8ghj7urjv4kkjatd9ec8y6tdv9kzumn9wsz3yzjv you are damn it right. People out there want to keep it simple, reliable and functional.
Easy. Give them what they want in a profitable way.
