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The fork will only come after enough nodes are running core 30 to allow childporn or malware on chain.

It's very unpopular and half of the nodes running core 30 are on corporate servers (they dropped out during that CloudFlare outage)

So just waiting on the shitcoiners to spin up more nodes and force the blockchain to fork.
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ihsotas 1mo ago đź’¬ 4

You have no idea how any of this works.

Everything that you fear core30 “enables” was already possible from day 1 of this protocol.

You have no idea who is running core 30 or knots for that matter. Bitcoin is not a democracy. Your node matters to you and your transactions and matters very little to anyone else. A node that belongs to an entity with high economic activity matters more than your node.

Bitcoin is anarchy. It doesn’t recognize illegal content outside of what is or isn’t a valid transaction.

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BitcoinIsFuture 1mo ago

You must be a retarded shitcoiner.

Filters work but it will be even better with a soft fork that limits spam and useless arbitrary data on consensus level.

I am sure you support it.

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Kayne 1mo ago đź’¬ 1

Bitcoin is a democracy.

Every node is a vote.

You're a retarded shitcoiner who thinks that a top down system where an oligarchy forces node runners to host childporn is anarchy.

You're the stupidest person that I've come across trying to defend this shit.

You're literally siding with pedophiles against Bitcoin because you think that allowing childporn is what makes it anarchy.

Fucking moron.

Like holy fucking shit you are stupid.

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ihsotas 1mo ago

Every node is not a vote. Your node is your business but has nothing to do with my node. There are no teams there are no leaders. There is simply consensus. A core thirty node running default policies validated transactions just like a node running 29 or 28. They are not voting on anything.

Calling people shitcoiners who understand bitcoin better than you is a bold move. Let’s see how that works out for you.

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Kayne 1mo ago đź’¬ 1

Stupid fucking retard doesn't even know how to look shit up.

Half those core 30 nodes are on corporate servers (see the recent CloudFlare outage)

And even still it's not anywhere near half the network

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ihsotas 1mo ago đź’¬ 1

You still have no idea who is running those nodes. A corporation like Coinbase who using cloud flare running core thirty is doing more for the Bitcoin network than all of the knots nodes combined.

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BitcoinIsFuture 1mo ago đź’¬ 1

The larper and troll is spewing misinformation. Idiot.

Bitcoin node is a Bitcoin node. If all Coinbase nodes die now, Bitcoin won't even notice. Tick tock, next block.

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ihsotas 1mo ago đź’¬ 1

I never said otherwise. I simply stated a node with high economic throughput was more meaningful to the network than your individual node. If you fork off and Coinbase doesn’t the network is less likely to notice your node vs a node with high economic throughput. This is obvious shit. Your node really only matters to you and your transactions because you are not important at all.

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BitcoinIsFuture 1mo ago đź’¬ 1

You did.

"Coinbase who using cloud flare running core thirty is doing more for the Bitcoin network than all of the knots nodes combined."

You imply that Conibase nodes are special and you directly say they are "doing more for the Bitcoin network" than Knots nodes. That is absolute bullshit and misinformation.

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ihsotas 1mo ago đź’¬ 1

I’m not implying anything. A node that is being used to validate 1000s of transactions a day is doing more work than one that is doing 1 transaction a year.

Is this not obvious to you?

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BitcoinIsFuture 1mo ago đź’¬ 1

See? You are a fucking retard.

My node and every other node on the network verifies all transactions. Is that not obvious to you?

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ihsotas 1mo ago đź’¬ 1

Yes nodes validate the chain, and even relay transactions unless you are a retarded filter enthusiast, but the economic activity of your node is meaningless to everyone else. The economic activity on a node that is very active is meaningful to a lot of people. If you run your node with different consensus rules it really doesn’t matter.

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BitcoinIsFuture 1mo ago đź’¬ 1

Kind of a damage control? Retard. You are wrong again though.

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ihsotas 1mo ago đź’¬ 1

No one cares what default relay policy your node runs. No one cares about your node. You thinking otherwise is the retarded take. Bitcoin is not a democracy.

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BitcoinIsFuture 1mo ago đź’¬ 1

Retard, where did I say that some is caring about my node?

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ihsotas 1mo ago đź’¬ 1

That’s the context of this conversation you inserted yourself into you choad. The prior retard occupying your seat was trying to say that nodes represent a democratic process of some sort and that a core 30 node going down with the cloudflare outage was evidence of something. None of it made any sense.

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BitcoinIsFuture 1mo ago đź’¬ 1

Your writings not only make 0 sense, they are wrong.

You said that "A corporation like Coinbase who using cloud flare running core thirty is doing more for the Bitcoin network than all of the knots nodes combined." which is complete bullshit.

You said that "A node that is being used to validate 1000s of transactions a day is doing more work than one that is doing 1 transaction a year. " which is complete bullshit.

And you said "No one cares what default relay policy your node runs. No one cares about your node." which I never said otherwise and is again a complete made up bulshit by yourself.

Every node is a vote. That is true.

"So, who secures Bitcoin?!

If securing Bitcoin requires consensus on what Bitcoin is, and Bitcoin is a database of values assigned to keys, and Bitcoin has a protocol for reassignment of keys, then securing Bitcoin can only be done by … your node!

Nodes! Nodes! Nodes!

In the end, YOU secure Bitcoin, but the only time that matters is when you agree with someone else on what Bitcoin is, and the only way that you can express yourself to others is via your node."

Read this, retard.

https://medium.com/bitcoinerrorlog/who-secures-bitcoin-95b19bbcda3c

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ihsotas 1mo ago đź’¬ 1

A corporate node is helping a lot of people transact. Your node is doing almost nothing for anyone else. Therefore the corporate node is doing more work. This isn’t hard tard.

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BitcoinIsFuture 1mo ago đź’¬ 1

Retard, all full Bitcoin nodes verify all transaction. There are no special nodes.

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ihsotas 1mo ago đź’¬ 1

Yes but a full node I manage helps me transact preserve my own privacy and sovereignty. It does nothing for you. A corporate node makes it possible for the majority of the public to transact who don’t run nodes.

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BitcoinIsFuture 1mo ago đź’¬ 1

You need to study Bitcoin harder and listen less to shitcoiners or people who manipulate you, like Jameson Slopp for example.

Coinbase the company matters to their customers. Their node is the same as everyone elseses node and is part of the whole network. There are no special nodes.

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ihsotas 1mo ago đź’¬ 1

How do transactions make it to the network? Work back from that and tell me that a node that pushes more transaction to the network is doing the same work as your node that simply verify the chain like all the other nodes and once a year sends a few sats to cold storage. No one would care if your node went down. Thousands would care if coinbases did. Therefore your node is less important.

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BitcoinIsFuture 1mo ago đź’¬ 1

You have a fucked up point of view.

What happened with FTX node? Anyone cares about it?

What happened with MtGox node? Anyone cares about it?

Should I go on?

If Coinbase stops their customers will be affected. If it dies, there are more than enough alternatives and version 2 by a different entity would be born as well.

Tick tock, next block. Long Live Bitcoin Plebs and Bitcoin!

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ihsotas 1mo ago đź’¬ 2

People care the moment they need to transact and can’t. Otherwise they don’t care. Still don’t change the fact that the Coinbase node is doing more work than yours and has more economic value. I’m sorry that bothers you.

As a rule nodes are not that important individually. Again Bitcoin is not a democracy so your choice of node software doesn’t matter except to you.

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BitcoinIsFuture 1mo ago đź’¬ 1

You contradic yourself. Are nodes not important individually or they are important for the individuals?

Your thingking is completely messed up. I see that you like to suck corporate dick. If you like it do it. But its not how Bitcoin network works. Bitcoin is decentralized. And all nodes matter.

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ihsotas 1mo ago đź’¬ 1

Your node doesn’t matter to me at all. Coinbases node doesn’t matter to me at all either.

The network matters but you don’t.

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BitcoinIsFuture 1mo ago đź’¬ 2

I am part of the network with my node : )) Nodes like mide are the network.

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ihsotas 1mo ago

I’m very proud of you. Your nodes don’t matter to me

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BitcoinIsFuture 1mo ago đź’¬ 1

Also don't forget that all Coinbase customers can run their own node and that way they won't need Coinbase at all.

So you stating that nodes does not matter individually is a complete and utter bullshit.

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ihsotas 1mo ago đź’¬ 1

The nodes matter to the individuals. They don’t provide those individual any control over the network or matter to any other individual. The only people concerned about other peoples nodes are the fucking weirdos over at knots.

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BitcoinIsFuture 1mo ago đź’¬ 1

You are completely brainwashed. Study Bitcoin more.

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ihsotas 1mo ago đź’¬ 1

I already told you I was proud of you. You are doing a great job.