Great episode of nostr:npub10atn74wcwh8gahzj3m0cy22fl54tn7wxtkg55spz2e3mpf5hhcrs4602w3 with nostr:npub1qny3tkh0acurzla8x3zy4nhrjz5zd8l9sy9jys09umwng00manysew95gx and nostr:npub176p7sup477k5738qhxx0hk2n0cty2k5je5uvalzvkvwmw4tltmeqw7vgup discussing the most difficult and important open problem in all of freedom tech: web of trust.

I’m glad to see centrality algos like #pagerank (personalized as well as global) make their way into nostr via 3rd party WoT services like nostr:npub1kpt95rv4q3mcz8e4lamwtxq7men6jprf49l7asfac9lnv2gda0lqdknhmz . Do any nostr alternatives run centrality algos? Nope, not yet, not that I’m aware of. nostr:npub13ndpm2hm9hud4azsq5euhf5mv3d05r90wymwxsd7rdn29609hhvqp60svh promises that Pubky will — someday — but I’ll believe it when I see it.

For those who don’t know, PageRank is a simple but extraordinarily powerful centrality algorithm that deserves higher visibility in the nostr ecosystem. It’s how Google eliminated spam from keyword search in 1998. In other words, PageRank launched a trillion dollar company. For calculating WoT over nostr, PageRank is the next step beyond my follows + their follows.

https://fountain.fm/episode/ybia0tfYnoavP1T8qOdO

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Thank you David.

lol why tag me just to doubt me?

to spur you to action, I hope!

I know you’re big on decentralized semantic web — many believe it can’t be done, but I think it can if we’re willing to implement some heavy duty centrality algos. Like PageRank — although I believe to make contextual trust scores (a prerequisite for a decentralized semantic web), we’re gonna need nonlinear centrality algos (as opposed to PR which is based on linear equations).

I listened 2 days ago, was a great rip, I learned a lot!

Bullish on Web of Trust. Skeptical about Web of Invites.

Ok, but how about Corn on the Cobbweb

What do you think provides the best source of raw data upon which to calculate WoT scores? Follows, mutes, reports, interactions, zaps … or maybe something that nostr hasn’t yet implemented but should? (Something like Pubky’s tags, for instance.)

I suppose this question should have two parts: contextual trust vs generic trust.

Gigi isnt thinking, just retaliating.

He still hasnt figured out all servers/relays/computers are permissioned, so he thinks invite codes are Pubky protocol or something.

Try speaking in useless metaphors so he can feel like he understands.

Thank you David.💐