I have been wondering about it since idk when, I have a theory that it’s related to ⚡️s but #[2] might disagree.
TLDR on the ⚡️theory is, people might not want to piss other people off, when they could be prospective payers. nostr:note1f0cgugam3lpflslxdc43l4242sm8cl99wph5tx2a6zd97zsymz7qfdwrnd
Zaps are the carrot in the nostr panopticon, we all mods to each other by zapping our feet and positive vibes only posts.
Jk jk jk jk JOKE ffs
Unless..
No no, I am joking.
I forget
It’s not a joke sir, or it’s the kind where it is actually the truth 😂
I think it’s a legit concern and is something I thought about but forgot to mention in my latest article.
Time will tell how zaps change social dynamics.
Whatever the outcome, I’ll still be super bullish on nostr because of all the other non social use cases!
I think it could be a legit concern but a practical solution at the same time, as #[4] pointed out, it very much looks like decentralized moderation to me!
You are both people I deeply respect, so I’ll add some input from an outside perspective.
I don’t give a shit about zaps.
That doesn’t mean I don’t like them, don’t want them, or want them gone. I’m just saying they don’t matter. I’m here for the people, the anonymity, and to contribute to the very difficult job of making social media work without centralized censorship.
Zaps (and bitcoin for that matter) are *just a tool* to accomplish my end. I use them to say thank you, patronize artists and devs, and occasionally drop a 💣 on someone for shock value.
My outflow exceeds my inflow, and I’m fine with that. I honestly think that Nostr attracts people who are more emotionally stable and confident, and thusly more able to handle moderating their own experience. People who need safe spaces are not the most resilient people in my experience. This is part of what I got into in my recent article.
to;dr my behavior would change not one iota if zaps fell off the face of the earth tomorrow. I think the answer is something deeper and more sociological.
Believe me I’m really happy people are willing to argue with me on this 😛. This is one of those fights I’d love to lose.
I think you and #[5] are right about the community having certain traits in common. Tbh I haven’t found so many Green Day fans under one roof ever 😂.
I share some but not all your thoughts on ⚡️ as well, I don’t think they’re super important (onlyZaps) but I would say that I would care a lot if⚡️s fell of the face of the earth 😂.
I hope the answer really IS deeper and more sociological but tbh I wouldn’t really mind if it isn’t. Money is a feedback mechanism, it’s definitely not the best and nowhere near perfect, but it does it’s job in the real world, and it might have a place on social.
I think it’s more of a function of what type of people are attracted to the protocol. If you believe that the good of people outweighs the bad, you’re more willing to venture into unknown and “unsafe” spaces. There are assholes everywhere, but there are even more beautiful people waiting to be discovered if one is willing to venture out of their safe space.
I so want this to be true
It is, we are just being conditioned to believe otherwise. We are all more similar than we are led to believe. Time has a way of sorting this out. The pendulum will swing back, and whether it comes back slowly and controlled, or like a wrecking ball is yet to be seen. My feeling is that it will be one hell of a wrecking ball.
But then why isn’t bluesky attracting similar people? It is also an unsafe space for now (atleast until the vibe check). Not trying to rain on the parade, but find it hard to be so positive on this, especially when I see people virtually raping each others families on these SMs 🤦♂️
Bitcoiners and free speech advocates are inherently hopeful people. They are hopeful that they can restore and rebuild a world founded on truth and open communication. They believe that when given the opportunity the good in people will lead us towards a better world. They are also honest and know that that the world is chaotic, and that it can be dangerous. But the alternative is worste and the trade offs are worth it. It’s this hope, that makes the “vibes” here more positive.
I don’t know what you mean by “virtually raping families” so can’t really speak to that.
Death threats, rape threats to family members, people being the absolute worst versions of themselves.
I hate that I read that and my first thought was “pfft whatever they’re almost always idle threats” because so far I’ve been lucky all threats against me by people on the internet have been mostly idle. What a fucked world.
Oh, that's what you meant. Disgusting.
I hate to live life the way you do. 😆
Good point, like we’re using zaps to condition each other to behave appropriately
Scary, but not necessarily bad.
It’s interesting because people with more money then have more “behavioral influence” than others which could be viewed as a negative thing but i think it’s just an inescapable feature of reality
Agreed, I also think there’ll be a limit to the “behavioral influence”, or I hope so, I would like to believe you wouldn’t be able to buy off peoples trust with mone, especially if you’ve proven yourself to be untrustworthy. (Or I think there would be a limit to this)
