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New Zealand has been increasing the number of countries we trade with freely.

We have bilateral agreements with Australia (1983) Singapore (2001), Thailand (2005), China (2008), Malaysia (2009), Hong Kong (2011), Taiwan (2013), South Korea (2015) the United Kingdom (2023) and the European Union (2024).

We have an agreement (TPSEP, 2005) with Brunei, Chile and Singapore.

We have an agreement (ASEAN, 2009) with Australia and the Association of Southeast Asian Countries (Brunei, Cambodia, Indonesia, Laos, Malaysia, Myanmar, Philippines, Thailand and Vietnam)

We have an agreement (CPTPP, 2018) with Australia, Brunei, Canada, Chile, Japan, Malaysia, Mexico, Peru, Singapore, the United Kingdom and Vietnam

We have an agreement (PACER plus, 2020) with Australia, Cook Islands, Kiribati, Niue, Samoa, Solomon Islands, Tonga, Tuvalu, and Vanuatu

We have an agreement (RCEP, 2022) with Australia, Brunei, Cambodia, China, Japan, South Korea, Laos, Thailand, Malaysia, Singapore and Vietnam.

There is a lot of overlap there, and there are big countries we do not have free trade with: USA, Russia, India, the Middle East, Africa, Central America and most of South America (save Chile and Peru) Of course we still trade with those countries, but there is no agreement to prevent trade wars with them.

I believe free trade is a win-win situation. Our sellers sell in larger volumes, and our buyers buy at cheaper prices.

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Rod 9mo ago

I didn't realise you were a kiwi. Kiaora

Brisket 9mo ago

I buy frozen NZ oysters for $21 AUD a dozen.

I enjoy them & the price.

Dissident Sound 9mo ago

tariffs are economic warfare

your NZ is too small to fight anybody - militarily or economically

USA thinks it is a big dog ... but i think it is overplaying its hand

and shooting itself in the foot

Mike Dilger ☑️ 9mo ago

I think Trump wants to rebuild American manufacturing at any cost, because the USA is going to need it when they are at war with China and can't buy things from China anymore.

He isn't trying to hurt trading partners. He isn't trying to make American's poorer. But those things are also consequences. Big costs.

The fact that he is willing to pay such big costs leads me to believe that the US actually intends to go to war with China. Why is that important? Beats me.

Dissident Sound 9mo ago

the alternative explanation is Klaus Schwab and his Austerity Agenda of " You Viil Own Nathing and You Viil eat Ze Bugz ! "

remember it was Trump who brought us lockdowns which were basically a WEF policy of reducing CO2 by banning things like Air Travel and other forms of movement

what lockdowns did for people the Tariffs are doing for goods - it is another WEF policy aimed at reducing CO2 and again coming to you courtesy of Trump

remember Trump is the guy who said that "Gaza is fantastic real estate" and has an embassy in Jerusalem named after him. Trump is also self-proclaimed "father of the vaccine" ... people think Trump is some friendly grandpa guy but he is 100% a calculating sociopath just like Elon.

China doesn't want war with US. They want us to keep buying their junk. Yes they could destroy us - then what ? They aren't that dumb.

Dissident Sound 9mo ago

the goal is to destroy the west economically and demographically. this has been the goal for decades now.

agenda doesn't change when the parties switch. only the rhetoric changes.

the language used to rationalize policy changes but the goals do not.

talk to Europeans - they have already embraced the future of poverty and slavery in the name of saving the planet.

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Mike Dilger ☑️ 9mo ago

Yes, China doesn't want to go to war with US. My brother asked me "why do they dare threaten the US, don't they know how unreasonably violent we are?" and my answer was "all they are doing is getting richer. They are not intending any threat" to which he said "that's a good point." Of course there is a military build up, but I see that as a reaction to threats and unclassified plans of the US.

As for the WEF, the whole "you will own nothing and be happy" was a futuristic idea like Star Trek where nobody owns anything but everybody has everything... kinda like the historic idea of communism. There would be a bunch of community self driving cars and you could have one at your front door immediately and go anywhere you wanted without owning a car, without having to service a car, without bothering with insurance, without the headaches of ownership. Some people would prefer that and the WEF thought everybody would prefer that. But people just interpret that one slide as "we are taking your shit, and you had best just be happy that we didn't also kill you." But they didn't mean this at all and the meme is getting kinda tired. This is NOT to say I agree with the WEF, I think they aren't very smart and they are far too much about centralizing power. But also, luckily, I think they are totally ineffective.

And no I disagree that Trump's tariffs have anything to do with the WEF. Neither was the vaccine. The vaccine was in response to the secret knowledge that the virus came out of weapons reasearch, which panicked all the leaders into over-reacting. If the military tells you this was a weapon and the antidote hasn't been created yet but we have the plans for how, most leaders will just believe that and push to make the antidote.

Dissident Sound 9mo ago

this sounds like something that would be written on a Facebook page for a nursing home, along with a reminder to avoid saturated fat and eat heart healthy whole grains

i hope this isn't the end of old Mike and you still have some life left in you before you turn into a boomer like your brother

but if this is the end i wish you a happy retirement and i will look after NOSTR for you

LOL

Daniel Wigton 9mo ago

For what is worth, I don't intend to go to war with China.

Mike Dilger ☑️ 9mo ago

Oh good. We can all breathe a sigh of relief. Thank you for making the right choice.

Dissident Sound 9mo ago

we were just arguing tariffs on an off topic section of a speaker building forum and here is what one person said:

"I can see WHY Trump is doing this. Having your economy highly dependent on electronic components made in Taiwan and China makes it massively vulnerable to Chinese military action."

which is basically your point. so this view is posing as conspiratorial but actually is mainstream. it is an astroturfed conspiracy.

reminds me of the view 20 years ago that we went into Iraq for the Oil - it was another astroturfed conspiracy to hide the fact that we went into Iraq for Israel.

the official story was that Iraq had WMDs, the official "conspiracy" was that we did it for oil and the reality is we did it for Israel.

and now the official story is we're protecting American jobs, the official "conspiracy" is we're preparing for war with China and reality is we're just forcing the west into poverty for Klaus Schwab.

Satosha 9mo ago

Overplaying !!! He is just getting started ! 😂