Just was thinking about what actually is “freedom”. In one way, you could be enslaved and still have free mind and feel free. On the other hand, you could have everything and no obligations, but enslaved within your own mind and “chained” to a certain way of thinking (stuck in your ways). If that’s the case, then freedom is just being able to open your mind and explore within and without. 🐶🐾🤔🤯

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For me, Freedom is the lack of obligations that I don't choose for myself

I think that we are not far apart on this. Obligations are also something that resides in your mind, and go together with actions. 🐶🐾🤔

I think I get what you mean

I think we are all slave in certain ways more or less.

Being part of society and try to fit in, definitely may have that effect 🐶🐾🤔

The most important thing I learned about freedom is that it comes from discipline.

Disciplined eating & exercise - freedom from health issues and pain

Disciplined spending - freedom from worrying about money

Disciplined in fulfilling commitments - freedom from anxiety

Realizing that I didn't want "freedom to X", but "freedom from X" was a revelation.

Good words, agree 💯! 🐶🐾🫂🫡

There is a great book on this, by Jocko Willink, Discipline equals freedom

In general happiness is a mindset rather than actual reality. Once you realise that you can live a happy life no matter what.

I guess that’s what it can boil down to. But you can be happy and enslaved at the same time. I guess that’s ok too, not something for me but I can’t tell others how to live their life’s 🐶🐾🫂🫡🤔

🤔 Interesting. Freedom, at it's core, is a form of anarchy, imo. Or, at least, very similar. It's the ability to choose whether you want to adhere to societal norms and standards, create your own, or have none at all.

I would consider it to be a subset of the overall “umbrella” of freedom. You can be free in your mind, but not necessarily in your actions 🐶🐾🤔

I could partially agree with that. I could think whatever I want, but society's current status heavily dictates what decisions I make to ensure my happiness. For instance, we live in a capitalist society and I know that Bitcoin is a better monetary option than fiat.

Social pressure is definitely something hard to be free of. Can’t disagree with that 🐶🐾🫂

Whatever happens to us, we are always free to choose our response, this is our last freedom. I got this from Victor Frankl, via Steven Covey, 7 habits book.

In this context, we always have some level of freedom, in a pause between the stimulus and our response.

But then, of course there is also freedom in like "do whatever I want", which is and should be limited by freedom of other people, i.e. I cannot kill or steal because this would be an attack on the freedom of others, their individual rights, property rights, etc.

Highly philosophical discussion for sure. The last point you make about infringing on freedom of others is not a well defined thing 🐶🐾🤔

Have you read Anatomy of the State by Murray Rothbard?

I have not, not yet🐶🐾🫡

Rothbard seeks to prove that our own bodies are our property, so to kill or enslave would be a violation of property rights. Anything we mix our labor with (build a fishing pole out of a tree, build a house and garden on a plot of land) is also our property. To steal or trespass on property would be a violation of property rights. It’s very philosophical and can basically be summed up in "do unto others as you’d have done to yourself"

Exactly, and that’s where the crux is, what I would describe as desirable for me is not necessarily desirable for others. Hard problem 🐶🐾🤔

This certainly is a problem. The communists believe private property is theft, and then we get into another debate about what property is.

The communist would believe if I build a fishing pole, then that fishing pole is the public property for everyone. The problem is, the only way to force me to give up my fishing pole is to use violence against my body. This is fine if my body also belongs to everyone else, because I have no right to my own body.

To explain why my body belongs to myself would actually be too much for a nostr note 😂 but i definitely recommend you read the book or listen to it on YouTube

Totally! 🐶🐾🤣

http://aynrandlexicon.com/lexicon/freedom.html

Much better explanation I found here

Bunch of gold, thanks! 🐶🐾🫂

“A “right” is a moral principle defining and sanctioning a man’s freedom of action in a social context.”

For me freedom is being left the fuck alone!