It works very well for the Jews to play the victim, but they are the founders of communism, wherever they go they only create conflict and destruction. And one virtue they have (to the disgrace of others) is that they are capable of making very long term plans.

Just look at what has happened with Palestine.

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People of any culture or religion are not monolithic, and those who make sweeping generalizations about some group have taken a wrong turn somewhere.

Go fuck yourself. We have longer history in this region than most of you in the countries that you live in. Leave us alone.

Leave us alone you who are behind the moral destruction of the West.

Funny that you wrote this only an hour ago, but quickly jump to conclusions that some Israeli jews are responsible for your problems (including Jews who did not want to live in Soviet Russia and fought hard to escape), not thinking who has the incentive for you to think so.

None of you would have cared about this place if it didn't involve the embedded christian hate for us and your attempt to justify it. War in Syria? Sudan or Bangladesh? Turks against Kurds? Lebanon internal war? No basic freedoms whatsoever in any of this neighborhood? Meh, nobody cares, that's just their nature ( #RacismOfLowExpectations ). But when Jews are involved in the conflict, all the virtue-signaling lights are on. Pathetic.

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"Promised by God" is not history.

And if I could find some myth that said I had a longer history than you where you live, it would be cool if I come and bulldozer you out?

You claim that historical Jewish presence & sovereignty in Israel and the middle east - is a myth?

Possibly, I don't know, but it doesn't matter - it was like 1500 years ago it doesn't mean you can come back and bulldoze out people who lived there for centuries

You dont even have a longer history than paramount films 😄

There are plenty of Jews who want nothing to do with Zionism, which I feel like you're describing

dipshits like "cypherpunk" doesn't have the cognitive ability to differentiate the two and instead is just a classic racist pos

jews are gonna jew

there is no Palestine, you moron, just Hamas and Hezbollah. If you support those animals instead of Israel then go live in Gaza

Or look at an imbecilic and stupid Jew 😂

Lol well there certainly *used to* be a Palestine I WONDER WHAT HAPPENED TO THAT

Palestine as a region not as a nation-state. The so called Palestinians lived perfectly fine under Jordanian and Egyptian identities, until they lost the war and dumped behind the new border.

Similar to calling the residents of Dresden "Dresdenians" and wondering why the Allies bullied them so hard.

The very project of israel obviously necessitates ethnic cleansing and always has.

You can't make a "home for the jews" without getting rid of the non jews - who were the overwhelming majority when the project started.

At least under trump this racial purification is done (or attempted) somewhat honestly but its still pure evil.

Serious question, in your mind what's the fundamental difference between the Zionists building a jewish ethnostate and Nazis building an aryan ethnostate?

The only differences I can see are in scale / time. But they're both pure evil based on ideology of racial supremacy.

Thank god you zionists are getting called out properly for it now - i think the internet is death to your evil project.

History is full of population exchanges between conflicting groups, whether between Arabs and Jews, or Pakistani & Indians.

Israel received the majority of Jews from Arab countries, the rest moved to Europe, and the Arab countries have basically become Judenfrei. Lucky for those jews, they did not end up like the Yazidis. But Muslim countries have the trick of pretending to be different from the minority Muslim groups in their neighboring countries, and leave their brothers behind the other side of the border. Similar to what happened between India and Pakistan, and happens in Bangladesh. Palestinians are Jordanians and Egyptians. They never asked for national-independence until the Arab leaders lost a few wars and decided it would be a good propaganda tool to keep fighting Israel through the Palestinians, while officially making "peace" agreements.

Calling Israel a "project" and suggesting it can be undone, is no different than calling Canada, Australia or the USA "projects". If you aren't willing to fight us we won't leave, so don't waste your time lecturing me.

yes well USA and Australia involved plenty of ethnic cleansing too - but that's generally regarded as "a bad thing" these days

I like to consider the parallels with apartheid south Africa - admittedly a far less extreme racist system than Israel but the only other modern day comparison

because the problem you have - assuming you are a jew in Israel (I deplore having to specify race, but its a racist system so I'm forced) is that you will either have to exterminate or at least forcibly remove essentially all Arabs - or otherwise one day face the reality of modern civilization, that you cannot simply deprive people if human rights. that being the case you will one day end up subject to the democratic will of the people of Palestine as a whole, including Jews and Arabs, as the white south Africans had to after the inevitable fall of apartheid

it's a rising balloon situation - do you go for total elimination, a "final solution" if you like, and make things worse if you ever have to actually share a country with the people you are massacring, or do you quit and trust to their mercy?

thoughts?

First, nearly 18% of Israelis are Arab Muslims, with full citizen rights. In fact they have more rights than the average Jewish citizen who is forced to serve in the military.

Second, half of Israeli Jews are also Arab, because their grandparents came from Arabic-speaking countries (and they consistently vote to the right wing parties because they've experienced Islamic rule and know better, similar to Cubans in the USA).

For the rest of the Muslim Arabs who you call Palestinians, for years I've thought they can truly develop a sense of nationality and given part of the land, could establish a stable nation-state side by side with Israel.

But I don't know what to believe now. Gaza was suppose to be an experiment to give them a (yet another) Judenfrei territory, and instead of building some reasonable political structure they chose to join a fanatic globalist Islamist identity (sponsored by Qatar, which also sponsors much of the academia and politics in the West) and fight us endlessly, against the personal interest of any person in Gaza. So yeah, we need to have the largest tallest widest border with them, which cannot happen in the current geography, and I hope there would be an arrangement where most of them move to other Arab countries and integrate there.

And I no longer want to continue discussing with someone who compares this war to the German Nazis who obsessively hunted innocent Jews all across Europe, from the Netherlands to remote islands of Greece.

It's a shame. I thought when you admitted you regard Palestinians as subhuman, that I'd found an honest Zionist who was owning what they were doing.

So you seem to be claiming that what you're up to is not evil but you have not disputed my point about the similarities between Zionism and Nazism.

You said at one point that if I was not going to fight you I should just let you get on with it (meaning the ethnic clearance I assumed). I of course will do this but I'm not going to also go along with your pretence that it's something different to what it is - pure evil of exactly the kind perpetrated on the jews by the Nazis and many others through history.

Plus its almost as if you are dehumanising Palestinians by, you know, referring to them as animals..

..can you think of any other times in history where that has happened and how it turned out?

There is no Israel, only Mossad. Same argument, spook.

I've been to Palestine.

Used to be a beautiful place where Christians, Muslims, and Jews lived.

Then the Zionist cunts came from Eastern Europe in1948 and fucked it all up.

What they don't realise is...they are just setting up the next jewish holocaust in the next 50 years once the US funding dries up. Lots more people are going to die.

You were born before 1948?

If European Jews and Sephardic Jews didn't join forces to establish Israel, we would have ended like the Yazidis in yet another corrupt Islamic dictatorship as all of Israel's neighbors, forcing us to pay #Jizya.

Jews are demonstrably some of the most intelligent people on Earth. But they are also their own worst enemy, because of an incredible lack of humility and emotional stability.

You are going to end up in exactly the same position as you did in Nazi Germany, and in Judea before that, and in Pharaonic times before that.

Because of your actions today.

Because your ethnosupremacist views + actions have not changed.

There is a reason why every few hundred years you end up in a holocaust. What you have just done in Gaza is setting you up for a disaster when the tables turn (and they will).

Don't you see that?

Hilarious how zionists always feel the need to be vulgar and disrespectful to make a point and prove, at the same time, how much they're completely wrong and just big bunch of psychopaths

Historically antisemitism stems from the jews being good at using money for their benefit. So basically they have been capitalists.

This is well described in Herzl book on the Jewish state. Something like "It does not matter in which people's or region or social environment you place a jew. The jew will always be superior in economic terms".

So basically it's bullshit what you said.

If Jews were better in money on average, then Israel would have been much much richer, don't you think?

I think Jews tend to be autistically obsessive when they believe in something. There was always an easy way out to convert to Christianity or Islam (or Socialist Atheism), so the people who remained Jewish have gone through this filtering process.

And believing that you are right and everybody else is wrong may make you incredibly rich if that's true. Might turn you to a Mark Zuckerberg kind of guys that won't sell their share for $50M because you believe it can go higher. But when the opposite happens, and you're wrong when others are right...

Anyways, those guys obsessed with money go to where the money is: America. They barely even visit here, and nowadays unfortunately it's very liberal and hip among young American Jews to virtue-signal against Israel, and have #RacismOfLowExpectations for our neighbors.

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I mean the state building process that was done in Israel is a good example of how well they were with money but trade in general too. Not to speak of the huge amount of logistics that were needed to get everything and everyone there. And of course I did not mean to say "Jews are always better with finances" but historically, as stated in another reply, they where forced into financial sector which gave them the "benefit of experience" back then.

And nowadays a human only needs to send money abroad to earn there. No need to physically change location.

do you know why us Jews are "good at money"? because we were forced into it. In many parts of the world, like Germany, the Jews were barred from employment in roles that normal bavarians could do and were forced to banking. The conspiracy theory that Jews purposely took over the banking sector to rule the world is a complete lack of knowledge about history and pure retardation to point fingers at a scapegoat... which worked for the Nazis and still works today for dumbfucks like "cypherpunk"

You are correct. I never said anything different. In germany they were not allowed in Zünften so they were forced to earn their living in other sectors like "financial services".

They were managing the money, not just taking it. But I wouldn't expect a smooth brain like yourself to understand that.

They were not "forced".

Bavaria was part of the Carolingian empire. Usury had already been banned in 806 and in 814 Charlemagne got really specific:

"Let no Jew presume to have a money-changer's table in his house"

https://origin.web.fordham.edu/halsall/source/814capitul-jews.asp

This predates the church law in 1311 that was directed at Catholics.

The following chapter from The Oxford handbook of the economics of religion explains Jewish self selection into finance in detail

https://www.tau.ac.il/~eckstein/pdf/Botticini%20and%20Eckstein%20Handbook%20Chapter.pdf

The Hebrew bible also bans usury of course, except it's ok to do it to Gentiles because of our supposed moral failings.

“Forced” into banking? Are you smoking crack?

Yes, forced. You clearly have never read history.

Here's an educational video... https://youtu.be/Njl6exA9syY

Oh those poor Rothschild victims!!!

Not just them, but others. Provides context. The Rothschilds were simply the one family that got rich. Not like this applied to all Jews, dumbass

Ok then. All I know is I am a slave to the bankers

We all are. And not all bankers are Jewish. Bad people exist in all groups. But we will bring down the system the evil people have collaborated to build. Bitcoin will win. 🤝

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