š¤ As a content creator, Iām obviously curious how does one make it to this welcome list? Leads anyone?
(I DMād the list creator - nothing).
Any other ways to scale on Nostr?
I really donāt feel like asking people with large follower base to share my posts.
Would love your 2 cents - nostr:nprofile1qqsg86qcm7lve6jkkr64z4mt8lfe57jsu8vpty6r2qpk37sgtnxevjcpzemhxue69uhhyetvv9ujumn0wd68ytnzv9hxgqgswaehxw309ahx7um5wghxcctwvshqpmqc nostr:nprofile1qqsqfjg4mth7uwp307nng3z2em3ep2pxnljczzezg8j7dhf58ha7ejgpp4mhxue69uhkummn9ekx7mqpzemhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuurjd9kkzmpwdejhgl426zu nostr:nprofile1qqsywt6ypu57lxtwj2scdwxnyrl3sry9typcstje65x7rw9a2e5nq8spz3mhxue69uhkummnw3ezummcw3ezuer9wcq32amnwvaz7tm9v3jkutnwdaehgu3wd3skueqq5fsxl
this is just some dudeās list
we so need to make discovery better on nostr
i think the current primal trending feed is an imperfect step in that direction
better support for custom lists and webs of trust recommendations as well
Cheers mate.
Is there a way to access analytics about āsome dudeās listsā, to evaluate how they function? Perhaps itās worth me engaging more with lists for now, till things mature.
we offer analytics at studio.primal.net
right now you need to use a chrome extension, nos2x, to sign in
list support is very basic in primal right now, i donāt think many use them currently
lot of work to be done, reducing the onboarding and discovery friction on nostr is a major focus at primal, big improvements coming in the next few months
Love it. Thx Odell.
Iām already a user of Primal Studio and use it regularly.
i personally think starter packs would be pretty powerful if implemented well
in my mind you would share a link or code to a new user and they would follow the people, topics, and content you recommend
If the onboarding is smooth, and I can direct them to sign up to primal using my personalized link, which will include my recommended lists - thatās a powerful use of web of trust.
But Iām still curious about scaling inside here for the existing user base š Iāll crack it! nostr:npub1qny3tkh0acurzla8x3zy4nhrjz5zd8l9sy9jys09umwng00manysew95gx
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That's a great idea!
Would also be nice, if you could just choose, say the 'Efrat Fenigson Package' on your first login and you automatically follow all of your followers. But so that it also works without a special link and for any creator.
This is what nostr:nprofile1qqsd7ele5ljpzft5tjl84naae5pkj9uqcepa77adwr6ayyy0948uyqqpz4mhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuerpd46hxtnfduhsz9mhwden5te0wfjkccte9ehx7um5wghxyctwvshszythwden5te0dehhxarj9emkjmn99ul3lxer was trying to build over a year ago with his onboarding website. I think it's a great idea and plays into Web of Trust beautifully.
That was a fun project : custom WoT powered Nostr invites. Still an important need, but I ran out of runway on my own dime.
Iām obv not a good fundraiser ā¦ but would like to get better.
nostr:naddr1qqgrsenpve3rscfhxqcrzctzvgmrzq3qmanlnflyzyjhgh970t8mmngrdytcp3jrmaa66u846ggg7t20cgqqxpqqqp65wqu2lw6
I think a DVM as a primary feed may make more sense. Most zapped perhaps, or most liked.
Starter packs result in some weird dynamics. Especially if we're trying to diversify perspectives on Nostr.
Not that I mind the cult. Or a small network. But if bringing more people in is the goal, it's worth considering.
you are basically describing the primal trending feed
likes, zaps, reposts, and replies are weighted and averaged
its relatively basic and imperfect but definitely helps with discovery
there is no āperfect path,ā we should give users more options and they can choose the best tools for themselves
One thing I think that would be handy is a client that lets you sign in with your own nsec, and then also someone else's npub, and makes it easier to just follow someone from that person's stream without the acrobatics of either signing back in, or juggling multiple windows. It's not THAT bad as is but you sort of have to know that it's what you want to do at this point, and I think new folks already have a hard enough time with the idea of being able to sign in as someone else in the first place.
Groups are another discovery mechanism for finding people to follow that just don't seem like they've ever caught on. Not sure if that's a UI thing or what, but they could be an interesting path if a spark lands on the right tinder.
Every technology that has changed the world has done so by providing building-blocks / structural rules, and letting the users crowd-source the breakthru user-draw.
Nostr is a tee-up for this already. Donāt give the people what you think they need. Prrovide them a platform of tools to build something for you.
Lists are so powerful, would love starter packs and community curated lists for topics
BlueSky has had this for a long time. We attempted to do it on Nostr with follow packs but only one or two clients bothered to implement it, and only in a half-assed way.
Outside my curated feed for both primal and twitter its a fucking shitshow out there
nostr:nprofile1qqs9xtvrphl7p8qnua0gk9zusft33lqjkqqr7cwkr6g8wusu0lle8jcpzamhxue69uhkummnw3ezuurpwfjhgmeww3hhwmsprpmhxue69uhhqun9d45h2mfwwpexjmtpdshxuet5cfkclk I dont see an easy way to add people to my current lists unless Im unaware of one.
This is part of the motivation behind the nostr:npub1healthsx3swcgtknff7zwpg8aj2q7h49zecul5rz490f6z2zp59qnfvp8p #wotathon
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Even those with thousands of "follows" don't get huge engagement. Odell has under 100 replies on most of his posts with hundreds of thousands of followers. It seems like you're going to have to find them elsewhere and bring them here the way youtubers did with Rumble.
Yeah ween need shearable lists that we can follow or unfollow.
As well as spam lists.
Those numbers look highly exaggerated. There can't be more than a few thousand, maybe 10 thousand people total active on Nostr.
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It's hard to get "real" numbers without getting quite sophisticated. nostr:nprofile1qqstq4j6pk2sgaupru6l7ah9nq0dueafq356jllwcy7uzlek9yx7hlspz4mhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuerpd46hxtnfduhsz9mhwden5te0wfjkccte9ec8y6tdv9kzumn9wshsz9mhwden5te0wfjkccte9ehx7um5wghxyctwvshs4kprv3 is trying, and puts jack at 50k https://npub.world/npub1sg6plzptd64u62a878hep2kev88swjh3tw00gjsfl8f237lmu63q0uf63m
My WoT using GrapeRank at default settings puts Jack at about 15k. But the cutoff is pretty arbitrary.
https://straycat.brainstorm.social/profiles.html
Yeah, lots of zombie accounts.
Low time preference.....scale will happen
Well if thereās a user base of 250k users out there and Iām on 4k, I can look at scaling strategies - I donāt think it has anything to do with time preference, itās marketingā¦ having a broader target audience to spread messaging to provide value to fulfill my mission.
For what it worth and using a X post of yours as an example
https://x.com/efenigson/status/1986398462376878170
On the Watch/listen list add your nostr link along with the other links.
Oh got it.
Mmmm I donāt know. Thatās not what I mean. Iām not looking to migrate my X followers to Nostr, but to tap into the supposedly hundreds of thousands of existing nostr users.
Not that the first option is bad, itās just harder as it involves overcoming āwhat is Nostrā hurdle.
You should try to migrate your X followers to nostr as imo the Nostr protocol is the future. Centralised platforms like X will die in the long term, imo. I do follow you on X but rarely view your X posts. I am subscribed to your substack account as you probable realise as I repost many of those articles on nostr (note, I rarely post things on X, just use X to āseeā articles from many different people I follow on X)
As for how to tap into the āsupposedlyā hundreds of thousands of existing Nostr users I am not convinced there are hundreds of thousands of āactiveā Nostr users, otherwise I have no suggestions to offer, sorry.
Good luck. š
Thx š§”
you can create your list š , on this site
We each need to be able to make welcome lists for our friends, fam, & followers.. on the list.
Or we can remind them they can literally sign in with our npubs...
I've signed in as a few people to get a feel for who I wanted to add.
I like that ifea
well, each client 'nostr' works differently, some do have algorithms, while others have nothing to decompose content, apart from the comments and publications that they see may come from which client.
Same. Itās not easy to grow on Nostr. I feel stuck. But patient. Finding my pack.
As someone who's been on here, creating content, for just under 3 years
And has never been on any "lists"
I don't have a great answer
Other than keep providing value and people will find you
Proof of work always wins
