I do believe that bitcoin is money and that all other «transactions» are spam.

I think it’s pretty obvious and self evident.

Bitcoin was created to separate state and money, not to scam people with Quantum Cats.

Trying to cloud what Bitcoin is, reminds me of trying to pretend there are countless genders and that men can be women.

It’s unprincipled relativism, and it will probably destroy Bitcoin if it not stopped.

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Monero is money too

where is the spam now?

right, Bitcoin is destroyed 😔

What is your point, Tony?

That's my point. Or rather do more Bitcoin walks instead wasting time on trying to policy and centralize the network. Bitcoin walks are much more valuable for Bitcoin adoption than this "I don't like how people use Bitcoin" initiative.

Thank you for your kind advice! You are invited to join the walks.

It's just that it's a controversy if bitcoin is broke or not, and if it needs fixing or not.

I understand that you might have a different opinion than me. I will generously let you have it. In turn please allow me to choose how I use my time. Deal?

sorry, I'm having rough time lately. non of this is my business what you do with your time.

I apologize for the tone. The invitation stands 🫂

Why we need to limit arbitrary data on consensus level? What's the damage?

The damage example from the top of my head is the increasing cost of running a node, which is a centralising force. Additionally, the utxo bloat is a mining centralising force. Centralisation makes the network more vulnerable.

The original post is more philosophical than technical, but in my opinion, in case of bitcoin serving as money, the tech should follow the original idea, not the other way round. If we don't defend it and optimise the tech to serve the original purpose, we will lose it.

looks like you are concerned about utxo bloat, while the entire idea or lifting OP_RETURN limit is to reduce utxo bloat.

Are other BIP110 supporters also concerned about utxo bloat?

Bip110 is not only about the op_return. And the idea of op_return limit lifting to mitigate utxo bloat is controversial to say the least.

what's the controversy?

Core is negotiating with the terrorists. They are saying: let's give the spammers op_return, so they don't bloat the utxo set. Bip110 is saying: gfy, we will defend both (and patch other exploit vectors), go spam somewhere else. This is my simplified understanding.

You should post more about spam/scam on Bitcoin and tyranny of shitcoin core on Nostr since Nostr is still circlejerk of few simpfluencers who just blindly worship shitcoin core and shitcoin core devs.

And then there are some simpfluencers and snake oil salesmen like nostr:nprofile1qqsqfjg4mth7uwp307nng3z2em3ep2pxnljczzezg8j7dhf58ha7ejgpp4mhxue69uhkummn9ekx7mqprpmhxue69uhhqun9d45h2mfwwpexjmtpdshxuet5hgfg9w, nostr:nprofile1qqsywt6ypu57lxtwj2scdwxnyrl3sry9typcstje65x7rw9a2e5nq8spramhxue69uhky6t5vdhkjmndv9uxjmtpd35hxarn9ehkumrfdejsz9thwden5te0v4jx2m3wdehhxarj9ekxzmnytjq0jg and nostr:nprofile1qqsw3znfr6vdnxrujezjrhlkqqjlvpcqx79ys7gcph9mkjjsy7zsgygpz3mhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuerpd46hxtnfduq3vamnwvaz7tmjv4kxz7fwwpexjmtpdshxuet5scvysa who try very hard not to associate themselves with shitcoin core but plebs are starting to realize that who they are siding with.

Moreover, they also try very hard not to show their Luke Derangement Syndrome (LDS) and Knots Derangement Syndrome (KDS) but plebs can see easily how badly they are suffering with LDS and KDS.

Speak for yourself. Bitcoin to me is whatever i want it to be. Loser.

Preach

Oh no - its the opposite way around. Virtue signaling about “spam” is the current thing my dude. In this case you are the libtard covidiot who virtuesignal based on emotion and not technicals/logic- there was so much debate and info shared last year. Look into that and im sure you will change your mind

Spam on Bitcoin is disgusting.

Bitcoin Knots has good filters to keep mempool clean of spam and BIP110 improves controls against spam on consensus level.

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You nailed it. Postmodernism run amok

if bitcoin can be stopped, it will be stopped. but it can't, unless we change the protocol in exploitable ways

Well put. For me it's always been an issue of scope creep. Bitcoin has one use case: money. Those who want bitcoin to be more than that can go create their own shitcoin, or join one of the many existing ones.

I believe all transactions on bitcoin are equally spams, what are you going to do?

educate yourself about Bitcoin because what you write is stupid

Nah what I wrote is exactly why bitcoin existed

Nah stupid is all counter argument you can generate. Try harder

study Bitcoin

Always and so do you

Doesn’t matter as long as bitcoin accepts it then it is legit there is no second layer of distinguishing what is monetary or not.

Inscriptions are a hack, an exploit of the system. An abuse. That exploit and other similar exploits shall be mitigated.

Blah blah blah I only hear narratives, I have another one hundred do you want to hear?

study Bitcoin

Preach brotha!

I hope that there is a band out there, somewhere, named Quantum Cats.

Bitcoin didn’t win by being everything to everyone. It won by being very specific and very hard to compromise.