Is there a list of services that sell/lease channels? I want to rent an LN channel for my latest project and used to use these services:

- Bitrefill [but they stopped doing it]

- Deezy [but they stopped too]

- Voltage [they require an account now]

- LNBig [only option left?]

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also found out about this one: https://lnserver.com/

When I need just a quick channel I open to boltz exchange then do an on-chain swap for half the channel

yeah but that requires several extra base layer transactions:

- tx to put base layer funds on the node

- tx to open a channel

- 2 additional txs to do a swap out (Boltz uses a 2 transaction swap protocol)

4 transactions is not a huge deal right now when fees are low but there's no reason to be that inefficient with chain space

With LNBig and its competitors, there's only 1 base layer tx: the one that opens the channel

Zeus community vouched peers / LSPs

https://github.com/ZeusLN/zeus/discussions/2265

They don't work unless you have an account

I've asked them to remove this requirement here:

https://x.com/SuperTestnet/status/1922766991061819817

Good to know

You should be able to log in with node

would be a lot cooler if I didn't have to

I opted to use one of their competitors precisely because the friction was lower, no need to create an account, log in (even "log in with node") and then wonder if they're gonna spam me or sell my info later

bosworth was still selling inbound channela to yalls.org last time I checked

wow what year is it

https://lightningnetwork.plus/

nice liquidy swaps :Pepega:

It requires you to create an account first

That is bad, they don't need an account so the only reasons for that are (1) to collect my info (2) to sell my info (3) to spam me

No thanks, I just used one of their competitors that doesn't require an account

You can login signing a message with your node, no need email or other info.

nostr:nprofile1qqs09lm66ncg45k55zdumsxmxe69wc2zsgp7n8ejm6rsm22hvdszv9qpz3mhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuerpd46hxtnfduq3qamnwvaz7tmwdaehgu3wwa5kuegpp4mhxue69uhkummn9ekx7mqf50zsm is an amazing system to connect node runner users

Know what's even better than logging in with your node?

Not logging in with your node

They absolutely do not need me to create an account, they just want an easy way to log my purchase history and send me messages that I don't want

I used one of their competitors that didn't make me jump through hoops to use it

The channel history of my node is public, i don't give them any other information, they need to be sure my node identity to help users to coordinate in the Liquidity Swap

I mean they want to log the times when I purchased a channel. Not my node's "entire" purchase history, just the times when I bought something "from them." They also want to direct me into a section of the webpage (my "account" page) where they can send me notifications. They can then see if I've read those notifications or not, and know that I didn't do this through an API, but manually. I think it's all part of an effort to get more data about me, and they do not need to have that data. Unnecessary data collection is hostile.

I understand what you mean, but they doesn't sell channels , they try to connect node runners.

It's not a great information if i read the notifications.

We can suggest them to use nostr to notify users 😁

nostr:nprofile1qqs09lm66ncg45k55zdumsxmxe69wc2zsgp7n8ejm6rsm22hvdszv9qpz3mhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuerpd46hxtnfduq3qamnwvaz7tmwdaehgu3wwa5kuegpp4mhxue69uhkummn9ekx7mqf50zsm

Soon enough liquidity purchases/renting coordinated over #nostr https://github.com/smallworlnd/publsp

No account or node signing of any kind required.

This is really cool! Can you make a demo video? I would love to share this work with others