monero idiots be like "its not about money its about sending a message". the message: i'm poor now ðĪŠ
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Were these guys idiots
what does this prove?
Your misguided priorities for p2p digital cash
My priorities are protecting myself from inflation and owning my money. Bitcoin meets these priorities. If your priority is only privacy, buy monero and stay poor in private. Nobody can know you are getting poorer because monero is so private!!! ð
It's more difficult to protect or own your Bitcoin and not be poor if goons with guns (either criminals or governmet) can simply kick down your door and take it from you. Many examples of this. Notably Canadian truckers and what happened to BTC Sessions friend.
Yes, #Monero is used on the dark market, not #Bitcoin :chadyes_sm:
1. Unlimited stock with decreasing inflation is better than a limited stock where the rich will buy everything and there will be no bitcoin circulating as it has no gold circulating today. Moner will continue to circulate as Bitcoin stays in the hands of the elite.
Unlimited stock is shit. I wouldnt stack a single sat if bitcoin had an unlimited supply
Gold has an unlimited supply. It's inflation is literally double that of Monero, which has the same inflation as Bitcoin as we speak.
2. Monero is more used because its teconology is superior to that of Bitcoin.
Today gold is worth more, but what is used is state money and not gold. This means that in the future, Monero will be accepted everywhere and few places will accept Bitcoin, because no one will have bitcoin to spend.
3. Self esteem is not measured by how much tax pay, but by how much you save on tax. If Moneto pays fewer fees and has a higher quality, nothing fairer than using monet. So it is in everyday life, many people leaving countries where the rates are higher.
4. Contradiction.
In item two you say it is more used.
In item four you say no one uses.
You need to decide first.
The rates are low because even a dinosaur computer can mine the monero, while in order to mining bitcoin it has to be an elite megain -plating, spending millions, to try to sell after more expensive.
5. Falls in value are nothing more than market manipulation.
While Bitcoin continues to deceive people throwing the price up and fishing more and more buyers, Monero remains firm and strong with its stable price without major manipulations.
Unlike bitcoin that high volatility makes its practical use in everyday life more difficult, monero with stable values has much more acceptance in the market for its stability and low oscillation.
Bitcoin became a speculative active equal to gold, few have, many surf in roles that are not even real bitcoin. As monero
, Only those who have, really have monero and uses monero.
Thinking bitcoins price only goes up by market manipulation means you have no clue about fiat currencies, #bitcoin, central banks, inflation etc. I'm not gonna bother teaching you, educate yourself
HAHAHAHA
Think it is not manipulation.
Make sure this is manipulation.
I know very well about Fiat coins and their infinite impression of money, but I have more study and knowledge that
You to know that the price of Bitcoin is above the average of other assets and that this is clearly a sign of manipulation.
Remember the crisis ".com",
Where have 90% of companies never recovered their value?
Don't think you have more market knowledge than me, why don't you have.
7. Privacy is everything.
While the government hires companies to track bitcoins, Monero continues to be king in anonymity, preventing bandits from seeing how much you have in the account or what you spent the next day.
If you want to get poorer in private, go ahead. Goverments monitor you in hundreds of different ways in your daily life. Buying and holding monero will not overthrow goverments, you'll just get poorer overtime which is only harmful to you. Not the goverment. But if you buy and hold #bitcoin you can leave the rat race which is designed by the goverment to keep you poor. You can achieve financial freedom
Vast majority of Bitcoin is on white markets and exchanges meaning the government can tax, censor, or confiscate it whenever they want. Hope you bought your Bitcoin non-KYC, self custody, and don't get traced or inadvertantly tie your identity to your tx history.
8. The price doesn't matter.
Either you have cryptocurrency or you are priced.
If your goal is to exchange bitcoin for money, you still don't understand what cryptocurrencies are for.
1BTC will always be 1btc - Tall rates, while 1 monero will always be 1monero - low rates.
My goal is to save my wealth from inflation. Bitcoin is the money itself, it protects my money which I spend my time and energy to earn. Buying bitcoin and getting richer over time doesnt mean "exchanging it for money" it means bitcoin protected me from the thieves that run central banks. 1 BTC is always 21.000.000/1 BTC while 1 Monero is â/1 Monero. It's a shitcoin
Imagine thinking wealth matters more than privacy. By saying Monero makes you poor you are literally saying fiat matters more.
Yes, wealth matters more than privacy. Some of you are schizos who think goverments will suddenly arrest you for buying bitcoin with your own money. I'm buying bitcoin openly and goverment can fuck off. They have no power over my cold wallet. Monero and fiat makes you poor, I suggest staying away from both of them and embracing bitcoin
You'll still be saying wealth matters more than privacy when your BTC is traced easily thanks to its transparent blockchain and you get arrested for not paying capital gains taxes and/or failing to report to the State's agencies.
Also, I would suggest you look up and familiarize yourself with Executive Order 6102, eminent domain, civil asset forfeiture, and regulatory takings.
It's not that the government will ever seize your BTC, it's that they have the power do so.
By that logic never buy any property. Dont buy a house or a car because goverment can take it any time! Live on the streets, dont own anything and eat ze bugs! ð
That's not even remotely close to what I'm saying.
What I mean is that it is far easier for the government to seize your BTC because they can link your transactions back to you quickly thanks to the transparent blockchain. There are literally entire sites and corporations dedicated to tracing BTC addresses and their transaction histories.
The secret is to have property not in your name and or hidden well enough from the government. BTC is failing in the latter category.
With XMR, you have enough plausible deniability since it can't be traced, granted you don't have crappy OPSEC and INFOSEC.
If i want to have an illegal transaction I can use monero and dont touch it after i'm done. Holding xmr just makes me poor. Holding btc makes me wealthier. If you wanna buy drugs on the black market go ahead and use xmr. If you are not an outlaw, just an ordinary citizen, there is nothing to be afraid while holding #bitcoin
Look at those poor Hugarians. Trading Bitcoin P2P can lend them in prison for up to 5 years.
You probably don't even realise that you are talking to some early Bitcoiners here that have seen a fair amount of things gone wrong and a sense of what there is to come.
If you can't see how normal people become outlaws at an accelerating rate I'd adjust your filters because it means you are not prepared bfor the storm that's directly bcoming your way.
I guarantee you that you'll remember ghis conversation when shitvhits the fan.
It tells me that you are just a normal pleb, with a couple 100k max in BTC. Enjoy your ride. Enjoy your future unrealised gains tax bill when it is due.
You still haven't figured out why early Bitcoiners need the best privacy protection they can get while this monetary revolution takes place?
There is 0 tax on bitcoin where I live. Yes, I am enjoying getting wealthier over time while xmr/fiat cucks stay poor and miserable :)
Bitcoin is illegal in some countries and heavily regulated in others AKA cucked. Black markets + anonymity and privacy are the only way to freely use it without current or future retaliation by the same people you're trying to take the money printer from.
Its tax free and legal in my country. I dont care
So you trust the government to keep it that way? A second ago you were saying government could fuck off and now you're relying on it's approval of Bitcoin.
If you dont trust the goverment dont buy a house or car, live on the streets like a homeless person. Because goverment can seize it any moment. I'm saying that you are extremist schizos, goverment cant take my bitcoin from my cold wallet
Kind of stupid to say that because you obviously don't trust the government either if you're using Bitcoin
You're right they can't, but they can confiscate your property, throw you in a cage, or worse in some places, if you don't give them your keys. 99% of people would give in especially if they have a family.
#monerolivesmatter