Hey #AskFedi,
Is *anyone* out there using FOSS for accounting?
I'm struggling with Quickbooks desktop (which you can only get as a subscription now, unless you pay four figures for an enterprise license).
#Xero comes highly recommended to me, but I'm loathe to go "#cloud" for accounting. Very loathe indeed.
But while I want to try FOSS for my personal accounting, I just can't make the leap for business yet. I wish I could. But I was wondering if anyone out there already has.
#BoostPlease?
nostr:npub1l3gpk6vrudg8r67swqlex5alv9ch59s4lw46kk6hekuxe2n3aczsyqvu48 Suggestions from AlternativeTo.net:
GnuCash
Odoo
HomeBank
ERPNext
Skrooge
Akaunting
GreenStash
Ledger
inoERP
nostr:npub1l3gpk6vrudg8r67swqlex5alv9ch59s4lw46kk6hekuxe2n3aczsyqvu48 I store data about all my transactions in a file I process with https://ledger-cli.org/
nostr:npub1l3gpk6vrudg8r67swqlex5alv9ch59s4lw46kk6hekuxe2n3aczsyqvu48
I’m using Akounting. Give it a try
nostr:npub1l3gpk6vrudg8r67swqlex5alv9ch59s4lw46kk6hekuxe2n3aczsyqvu48 I’m using Odoo for my business and I’m quite happy with it. It’s open core though
nostr:npub1l3gpk6vrudg8r67swqlex5alv9ch59s4lw46kk6hekuxe2n3aczsyqvu48 Very happy with nostr:npub14azesvlzkrdpu8nhjw0snju99f3gj99r8mgla2hmhs6vs68jczcs66m7gz's #plainTextAccounting with #hledger.
Infinitely customizable, ultra safe data format, git versionable, flexible tagging, budgeting and forecasting capabilities.
But only if the terminal is your thing 📟
🙂
nostr:npub1l3gpk6vrudg8r67swqlex5alv9ch59s4lw46kk6hekuxe2n3aczsyqvu48 Does using a . txt file on my Linux laptop count?
nostr:npub1l3gpk6vrudg8r67swqlex5alv9ch59s4lw46kk6hekuxe2n3aczsyqvu48 I've always heard GNU Cash is a good accounting software.
nostr:npub1l3gpk6vrudg8r67swqlex5alv9ch59s4lw46kk6hekuxe2n3aczsyqvu48 I used Grisbi for non-profits, and now for my own self-employment, but it's GTK2 or so, has some rough edges.
There's also GNUCash, Homebank, Kresus…
You can check this list (in French):
https://framalibre.org/tags/comptabilit%C3%A9
In APT I see also Economize.
For larger businesses there are systems like Odoo or Dolibarr, but they need a server and quite some setup.
I know some people do it in #OrgMode other plain text system: https://plaintextaccounting.org/
nostr:npub1l3gpk6vrudg8r67swqlex5alv9ch59s4lw46kk6hekuxe2n3aczsyqvu48 As a suggestion, you could look at https://www.frontaccounting.com/ and host on your local machine/server or run your own server on the net.
Generally quite good but localizing for VAT and stuff was more involved when I used it last.
Their demo at https://frontaccounting.com/wbt/pages/home/demo.php will help check it through a bit.
nostr:npub1l3gpk6vrudg8r67swqlex5alv9ch59s4lw46kk6hekuxe2n3aczsyqvu48
My brain tends to work well with the "envelope" style (what YNAB uses), the standard "fancy spreadsheet" (used in Gnucash, Skrooge) has never worked for me.
Budget With Buckets has worked pretty well for me:
nostr:npub1l3gpk6vrudg8r67swqlex5alv9ch59s4lw46kk6hekuxe2n3aczsyqvu48 I use Firefly3 for accounting. I transitioned to it from ClickUp year ago and have been liking it so far. I have not done yearly reports so the "true test" is still on the way.
nostr:npub1l3gpk6vrudg8r67swqlex5alv9ch59s4lw46kk6hekuxe2n3aczsyqvu48 don't use #xero though. Completely overpriced.
nostr:npub1l3gpk6vrudg8r67swqlex5alv9ch59s4lw46kk6hekuxe2n3aczsyqvu48 Over the years LWN has had a series of articles as they tried to replace Quickbooks too. They finally settled on a solution a few months ago.
nostr:npub1l3gpk6vrudg8r67swqlex5alv9ch59s4lw46kk6hekuxe2n3aczsyqvu48 I used nostr:npub1agjhzhe53fygaaf0zrjd6qtv9cwqea9a9md58j6ndfxzm446xtfqc96vdc a while. Found it to much for what I needed but that’s a really good thing in a way.
nostr:npub1l3gpk6vrudg8r67swqlex5alv9ch59s4lw46kk6hekuxe2n3aczsyqvu48 We're currently migrating our company to Odoo. There are accounting features, you can have a cloud solution or host in your own server.
nostr:npub1l3gpk6vrudg8r67swqlex5alv9ch59s4lw46kk6hekuxe2n3aczsyqvu48 ... you don't mention what sort of module support might be needed, like full-on ERP, or Distribution, Manufacturing, Payroll, etc., so a lot of soluions available in the FOSS arena just won't be usable as-is when those more specialized requirements can't be plugged into basic 'ledger' accounting to cover specific business types... i.e.,
nostr:npub1l3gpk6vrudg8r67swqlex5alv9ch59s4lw46kk6hekuxe2n3aczsyqvu48 I feel this pain. I use Wave from H&R Block, but would love something that doesn’t feel like a loss leader for their real business.
I really wish there was a *ledger that had a nice UI for folks who don’t live in vi or emacs. Something like YNAB but using text instead of a database.
nostr:npub1l3gpk6vrudg8r67swqlex5alv9ch59s4lw46kk6hekuxe2n3aczsyqvu48
I've been using a combination of Denaro and LibreOffice Calc for the occasional spreadsheet.
There's also GNU Cash, but I don't have much experience with it.
nostr:npub1l3gpk6vrudg8r67swqlex5alv9ch59s4lw46kk6hekuxe2n3aczsyqvu48 Was about to mention that GnuCash would often get mentioned, but then was reminded that we use Odoo at work for inventory management.
nostr:npub1l3gpk6vrudg8r67swqlex5alv9ch59s4lw46kk6hekuxe2n3aczsyqvu48 it may be worth looking at InvoiceNinja https://github.com/invoiceninja/invoiceninja
nostr:npub1l3gpk6vrudg8r67swqlex5alv9ch59s4lw46kk6hekuxe2n3aczsyqvu48 I've never found anything here that seems adequate. (I'm not an accountant, either.)
An in-between, a Linux-supporting but not FOSS local app that seems to be good, is Moneydance.
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I'm looking for a solution for small business use, so it's not just me that would be potentially using it. I'm tempted by xero, but also looking at akaunting. I'd like to stick to a desktop solution, but unfortunately, the cloud crap is just SO compelling. :P
My primary concerns are:
* FOSS if possible
* Web-based if not
* Easy to use (I love using a text file for everything, but it wouldn't be a good fit for this business use)
* Not evil?!? XD
nostr:npub1l3gpk6vrudg8r67swqlex5alv9ch59s4lw46kk6hekuxe2n3aczsyqvu48 https://lwn.net/Articles/731126/ has good writeup about available options. At my startup, we use Zoho Books and its very affordable.
nostr:npub1l3gpk6vrudg8r67swqlex5alv9ch59s4lw46kk6hekuxe2n3aczsyqvu48 Have you looked at Akaunting? https://akaunting.com/
Cloud or self-hosted.
nostr:npub1l3gpk6vrudg8r67swqlex5alv9ch59s4lw46kk6hekuxe2n3aczsyqvu48 Odoo community edition, or GNUCash (or spreadsheet if its not too complicated?)
nostr:npub1l3gpk6vrudg8r67swqlex5alv9ch59s4lw46kk6hekuxe2n3aczsyqvu48
I am using with profit #beancount with #fava as webui. The former is CLI only but with the latter it comes a web interface, with a simpler UI for generating reports. All Python-based, if it helps.
nostr:npub1l3gpk6vrudg8r67swqlex5alv9ch59s4lw46kk6hekuxe2n3aczsyqvu48
> Xero comes highly recommended to me, but I'm loathe to go "cloud" for accounting
Ae, me too. If there's any personal data that never ought to leave your local network, it's financial data.
Was just looking for something as well. Everything out there looks pretty basic and without tax features.
I've been checking out #craterfinancial
Definitely not going to replace quick booksbut it's clean
I hear Firefly is good, but I haven’t had a chance to use it myself yet. Thinking of starting fresh for the new year. It also tracks btc.
