Nostr Web Client

It would be overly complicated for what you’d get out of it. How often do you check to see if who all reacted to a post and which which reaction they used? We already have 🤙 and ❤️ reactions combined into one list but you only see that if you look at the reactions on that post. Comments are much more efficient for the recipient.

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For disclosure, I wish for a future where I can build my simple algo in the client to create “what have I missed” feeds that I can control.

Likes would be useful to keep to give another data input to the algo.

Don’t put too much weight on these ideas I throw out, they just pure exploration. By discussing them with other it helps me to better explore them, collective thinking out loud.

But if I am having a shitty day and I could quickly filter out all the posts that made people angry from my custom algo feed, I’d love to be able to so

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corndalorian 2y ago

The challenge then becomes spam. On Twitter, for instance, someone could go buy hundreds or thousands of likes on a tweet through a 3rd party service. I saw someone do this last year and they won 1M sats in a meme contest because the winner was chosen solely on number of likes. 😅 When likes cost nothing or very little, they become an easy target. When something that costs very little becomes an input into an algorithm that could get your attention, now it becomes an attractive target. An easy attractive way to put information in front of lots of people’s eyes with the hopes of manipulating some into falling for scams, believing fake news, etc etc etc.

𝖋𝖎𝖆𝖙𝖉𝖊𝖓𝖎𝖊𝖗 (¯`◕‿◕´¯) 2y ago

Since when forcing people to do something actually works? #[6] is not the only client out there

Quentin 2y ago

It has never worked, well sometimes it has 🤣.

But I agree, there are more customers, but it's a pity that the most important nostr client (and the one that works best too 💜) makes these changes without generating a debate first.

My humble opinion, I open the umbrella ☂️☂️☂️☂️☂️☂️☂️☂️😅😅☂️☂️☂️☂️☂️

The Fishcake (nostr.build) 2y ago

We are still forgetting that it’s not in release. It’s a test, nobody is forced to do anything! App Store version is still available! 🐶🐾🫡

𝖋𝖎𝖆𝖙𝖉𝖊𝖓𝖎𝖊𝖗 (¯`◕‿◕´¯) 2y ago

By you turning on zaps only, that is forcing me 😆 to zap ⚡️

The Fishcake (nostr.build) 2y ago

Feel free not to zap me, comment, sure. If this will make you feel better, I’ll remove my LN url just for you. I’ve done it before and I’ll do it again, just say a word! 🐶🐾🫡

𝖋𝖎𝖆𝖙𝖉𝖊𝖓𝖎𝖊𝖗 (¯`◕‿◕´¯) 2y ago

That sounds a lot like an ultimatum 😆

The Fishcake (nostr.build) 2y ago

Not really, at least not intentionally. What I am trying to say is, everyone should have a choice (to an extent) and we should all respect it! 🐶🐾🫡

𝖋𝖎𝖆𝖙𝖉𝖊𝖓𝖎𝖊𝖗 (¯`◕‿◕´¯) 2y ago

All good. We just have to agree to disagree. 😁

The Fishcake (nostr.build) 2y ago

That’s the way! I am glad we can actually talk as civilized people! Love you and this place! 🐶🐾🫂💜💜💜

𝖋𝖎𝖆𝖙𝖉𝖊𝖓𝖎𝖊𝖗 (¯`◕‿◕´¯) 2y ago

🤙😁

Quentin 2y ago

💜🐶🐾

jimbocoin 🃏 2y ago

It will be interesting to see what happens when there are more iOS native nostr client choices. If there’s a client that lets me keep using likes, and Damus censors me, then I’m switching.

Quentin 2y ago

There are already alternatives, look:

CryptoClay 2y ago

impressive ! I love so much when there's no central entity 🤗

Zeusln is a wallet and nostr ?

Quentin 2y ago

Not all are nostr clients. These are:

Damus

Iris

Nos

Nostur

Plebstr

CryptoClay 2y ago

hoo ok, yes. I was just wondering :)

good enough :) haha

jimbocoin 🃏 2y ago

Yeah, maybe I should switch to Test Flight. Though if I did, my likes would already be censored. 😂

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That’s the spirit of the protocol.

Quentin 2y ago

Of course, the debate is on the testflight version, that's for sure 🙂

Also the word "force" is very harsh, I mean simply, couldn't it work the same as the current "mute" feature?

The Fishcake (nostr.build) 2y ago

In fact I can make a quick shell script now to generate millions of new npubs and post “like” note to any note. 🐶🐾🫡

Quentin 2y ago

Yes also with comments, or zaps of 1 sat. Pow is the solution for that 💜

The Fishcake (nostr.build) 2y ago

POW on mobile is a literal killer feature. There are places for it, but I think this is not it. 🐶🐾🫡

Quentin 2y ago

You think? I didn't have that on my radar, why?

The Fishcake (nostr.build) 2y ago

It will use more compute and hence more emu, which results in your phone dying quickly! 🐶🐾🫡

Quentin 2y ago

But only for events, so if you are not fishcake or quentin 🤣🤣 and you only create ¿10? events a day should be affordable for a phone, i think

The Fishcake (nostr.build) 2y ago

Every milliwatt counts. The cheaper you make it the more abuse you will have. 🐶🐾🫡

₿itcoin 2y ago

Agreed, also, a troller doesnt care about pow. Why would he? He can just run a heavier processing unit to bypass the pow.

Quentin 2y ago

The aim is to make it difficult for them, but I think the debate now is not about PoW but about yesterday's update.

Nice to meet you 😀

₿itcoin 2y ago

Nice to meet you too. What was the new update about? Something with zaps only right?

Quentin 2y ago

Yes, you can see the entire note, we have discussed a lot 😆.

₿itcoin 2y ago

Im on amethyst and need to scroll up for a long time haha

Quentin 2y ago

Exactly, we've been talking for hours, you've got plenty of time 🤣🤣 if you want to read my initial note, it sums up my opinion quite well.

jimbocoin 🃏 2y ago

The point of PoW in the context of nostr posts is to make it costly to spam. Trolls have budgets just like everyone else.

jimbocoin 🃏 2y ago

NIP-13 describes how PoW can be delegated specifically to address the problem of low-power devices (mobile). One could pay a miner to mine a note’s PoW.

StackSats.IO 2y ago

You can do this on https://www.sats4likes.com

I’ve used it to pump a few things on Twitter. The whole thing is manipulated so I have no problem manipulating it to my ends and doing so with Sats to a #Nostrich dev.

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Absolutely, then we need to address trustworthiness through a aggregated and uncoruptable trustworthiness rating model, just typing this feels Orwellian but methods of addressing trustworthiness rating at least for commercial exchanges at protocol level could be interesting Trust is hard to earn over time, and easily lost.