Quantum entanglement doesn't actually allow FTL comms. If you and I share an entangled qbit between earth and Europa all that means is that when I measure the value of my qbit it will be in instant agreement with your qbit, but the value is random. We have no ability to decide what value we see. We only know that we are seeing the same thing.

You can use this to send a message that cannot be intercepted, but you still have to send the actual data by conventional means. The qbits just make a fancy one-time-pad

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if you can do any kind of computing with these things then you can modulate a signal. you couldn't use them to do schnorr's algorithm unless there was ways to take that randomness and use it to create order.

the reaction of these things to inputs has a timing feature to it that would likely be able to encode digital bits, albeit maybe quite slowly, nevertheless, detecting the change of state should be possible within at most a few thousand points of its change pattern.

bitcoin's difficulty adjustment is a process of adding a signal to a poisson point process that uses only 2000 something samples that hit the threshold (ie, block solutions) that results in a steady token emission rate.

i'm quite sure that a similar thing can be done to identify a signal sent over such a random process that would be at least 56k modem speed. hell, if it can even do 300baud that's still enough to have IRC chat across it, given a modified, minimised protocol.

as far as i know, the key problem with entanglement signal transmission is synchronisation.

the difference in the gravity between two points in space alters their relative speed of time flow. you can't get a signal across if you aren't tuned to the right channel.

however, physically fixed endpoints will be able to get tuned well enough, since the gravity fluctuation is comparatively lower in any place with a device sitting still in one spot on a planet, whose motion is relatively stable.

i think the even bigger challenge is that you have to physically transport the device first before you can use the connection.

as in, no matter which way you slice it, there has to be pairs of devices made in one place, and one sent to the other location in order to make the connection. however, since you can then use cabled and radio connections on the other end since latency is low enough, launching a long range network can be done in stages, and capacity can be incrementally increased.

There are two separate phenomenon going on. Entanglement and superposition. Entanglement means that two particles share a quantum state.

Superposition means that the quantum state carries probabilities of being all possible outcomes.

If you do Schor's algorithm you don't break superposition but you do change the quantum state. This change to quantum state breaks entanglement.

Here is a bad analogy, but the idea is the same.

Let's say we carefully prepare two small and indistinguishable boxes, one with a coin showing heads the other with the coin showing tails. We add a bit of cotton to keep the coin from flipping easily and close them. We then mix them somehow such that we no longer know which is which.

Then I select one of the boxes and take it to Pluto.

No if we both open our boxes we can instantly know what the other person has. I have a 50-50 shot of heads or tails, but as soon as I see tails I know that you must have heads.

But perhaps you give your box a vigorous shake. You alter it's state with respect to mine. The coin may have flipped in the box by compressing the cotton a bit or it may not have. We don't know. But because you did something the boxes no longer have a common state. You still have a 50-50 shot of heads or tails, so you haven't broken superposition, but when you open the box and see heads you now have no idea at all what I see when I open mine.

The problem with this analogy is that in this case the state of the coin represents a hidden variable, whereas with quantum states there is no hidden variable. But the rest of the analogy holds.

There is no way to alter quantum state without breaking entanglement.

ok, i've been reading up on it, and there is no known theory or experiment from such a theory that demonstrates FTL communication, and the only hypotheses relate to wormholes, which are also very much hypothetical at all, but obviously if you could create one big enough to have electrons or photons travel back and forth through it, you'd have the device

interplanetary digital communications therefore are inherently too high latency for any kind of reasonably interactive protocol, but i think the bandwidth can be sufficient for very large amounts of data.

so it would be a postal service not a telephone service. at worst, slow telegrams or IRC chat with minutes of ping

i say, if we don't understand gravity anyway, that we are stuck down here, and if we understand gravity, its intimate relationship to time and space implies probably we will figure out how to fold space in some way, at least to get a wormhole that can carry photons through a discontinuity in the fabric of spacetime.

i'm more concerned about whether there will be any humans on the planet in 40 years time, considering the social and geomagnetic/space weather situation...

probably won't even *be* radios at all, and certainly for at least a decade maybe, electrical devices will be impossible to operate or at least will fail catastrophically every time there is the smallest burp from the sun.

Yeah, I am not as optimistic as I wish I could be about space settlement. Too many Karens with nukes in the global HOA. I don't think they like anyone being free of their grasp.

My main motivation for designing a protocol that can scale to galactic use if need be, is to force myself to make absolutely sure there are no privileged aspects to it.

There is no global agreement required on any state. This prevents all kinds of centralizing pressures. No global name registry, no Blockchain, no certificate authorities. If you have two people in a cave, it should still function as long as they can share data somehow. Bluetooth, qr codes, lan..

I have been watching lots of great projects make themselves pointless, because they can't help but find a way to make themselves important to the network somehow. Like Signal requiring their servers to initiate connections. Others place themselves as the name registry etc. Nope. Won't work. Censors will lean on what ever lever you leave them.

haha, nuclear fission chain reactions.

i'd sooner believe an elite sniper put a bullet through a target within 1 inch circle at 5km, 5 times in a row than any "top seekrit" scientist can figure out how to do what is the equivalent of twice the distance and a million times as reliable in successfully getting nuclei to collide despite the incredible forces of electrons holding them apart. i'm sure you grasp the meaning of that if you understand that nuclear fission means nuclei of atoms actually colliding with enough force to disrupt their structure.

anyway, whatever hypothetical floats your boat. i either will be building my hermitage in the mountains far inland or expecting to need to have a pretty big, rough seas capable ship and carry a substantial amount of livestock and seeds in order to be able to eat a year after the flood waters subside.

i don't think we have a lot of time so either that or He comes with his Host and throws out the trash and evacuates us to a prepared other planet.

Hrm, well. That one is fusion. Fission just requires heavy isotopes to split. They do so spontaneously all the time. It is why red glazed pottery shows up on a Geiger Counter. You can make even more unstable isotopes by adding a neutron. Neutrons don't have to overcome any repelling force to enter the nucleus.

You just have to increase the size of your sample till it's radius exceeds the mean free path of a neutron by a sufficient amount to cause a chain reaction.

The hard parts are refining enough material and assembling a critical mass fast enough that it doesn't just fizzle instead of bang.

hard? take two subcritical masses of fissile material and slam them together. this is 1940s technology

except doesn't fission cause the emission of intense amounts of heat, which are more than sufficient to boil plutonium into gas?

nuclear fission is not the same as molecular fission. even you can substitute, to some extent, the oxidiser, and more heat lowers the threshold for chain reactions to occur

nuclear fission requires the metallic heavy isotopic material to stay solid long enough for enough of it to break apart. i just can't see how it's going to work to make that plutonium be under enough pressure to maintain its close proximity before all bets are off when the atoms are suddenly thousands or millions of times further apart. as gas.

in my opinion, the amount of latent heat in some room temperature plutonium is the key reason why you can't make it cause a fission chain reaction of any usable size.

i'm not sure what its latent heat capacity is, i know that water has the greatest latent heat capacity of all materials known, and additionally, metals are very heat conductive, which is another way of saying that when you put heat in, it comes out quite easily and quickly.

however, if you break the structure, as must happen when you break a nucleus, all the electrons are liberated and all the latent heat (which is basically captured infrared photons) are also liberated, and are absorbed and conducted well by the remainder of the solid, and rapidly turning into liquid, plutonium metal.

when a metal becomes liquid, right off the bat it expans by about 3x or more in volume, which is another way of saying that your fission nucleus strike precision now has to rise by this factor of expansion

add a few more successful hits and there is a certain point at which the amount of heat, which presumably is all trapped inside the implosion device of an alleged plutonium based explosive charge, by both the mechanical feature of it being a metallic sealed vessel and by the implosion force of your shape charges, the entire mass of plutonium is going to reach above the triple point and be ready to turn into gas the moment that the compression and containment cease to hold.

i would estimate that this point is probably a pretty small percentage of fissioned material because the strongest implosion vessel i can conceive of would have to be made out of solid, inch or more thick tungsten, at which point you know that if the thermal yield of the fission so far has achieved the point where this metal starts to melt, just so happens to also be in the range of the boiling point of plutonium

so, if you can explain where the kinetic energy (not heat) is coming from to rupture this violently instead of melting it like a baloon lit by a lighter (or like a hindenberg, hissing a violent burst of combusting hydrogen out the first crack that opens) and providing your kinetic force (not just heat) then i'm sorry but your plutonium is going to be no more than 10-20% fissioned, and the rest is going to be boiled, and even the strongest conceivable containment vessel around it, surrounded by the delicate temperature regulation gear that is required because of the micron tolerance of the whole apparatus to failing to achieve even this pissy amount of fission, is just going to be a nasty dirty bomb that fortunately is only a few kilos of metal boiled rapidly into vapor, and there certainly isn't going to be a great flash and much wailing and gnashing of teeth. maybe some cancer. a little.

anyway, do the math yourself. there is a good text you can read that goes through every sordid detail of the alleged nuclear fission chain reaction-and-hypothetical-explosion story, it's got more holes in it than grandma's magnum opus doily.

"when a metal becomes liquid, right off the bat it expans by about 3x or more in volume"

?????

i read about this, actually plutonium is unusual in how much it expands as a liquid but it's only some fraction like 20%

but gas is a massive increase in distance between particles, obviously.

with enough compressive force, the material will stay compact enough

it's simple as this:

there is nothing so special about government scientists, who supposedly have the monopoly on being able to make this supposed mechanism work, when they did the computations on computers that were barely more than calculators, they didn't test the components of the system properly, and somehow they magically made it work the first time, and none of the "science" has ever been verified by anyone without a top secret clearance.

it's a scam.

it has never happened that one of these alleged explosions occurred outside of "top secret", fully stage managed conditions. and the science of the physics of radiactive decay is known well enough that if terrorists were able to get themselves a bunch of pure enough plutonium, they WOULD have used it by now.

if it were possible.

it's not possible.

best you can get out of these things is a dirty bomb. most of the publicly released info about the devices is explosives. they would make a bit of a mess but the physical damage created by the supposed hiroshima and nagasaki bombs, when examined by experts in conventional explosives, were underwhelmed by the damage and an extraordinary amount of structures and even things like power poles somehow withstood being right underneath the detonation. just like conventional explosives do.

it's not questioning the reality of nuclear fission.

it's questioning the reality of the godlike burning the sky doomsday narrative around it, even though there is no verification or facts coming from anyone who hasn't got the blessing of the Gods, i mean government.

there's no way, if it were real technology, that they wouldn't have used it by now. it's a bogeyman. it's like the aztecs saying "if you don't let us kill these virgins brutally the sun will burn your crops".

it's bullshit.

like all of the supposed weapons of mass destruction.

they don't exist. it's theatre, to keep the sheep in line, threat that they have convinced everyone to tremble in fear of, if the enemy has it, to support invading the enemy's country to "remove their nuclear weapons"

pure bullshit. pure government, megalomaniacal fantasy.

i might just point out, and this is a major engineering issue, that the density of metals decreases a lot between a very low temperature (eg -50'C) and a hot day (40-70'C) that it can cause railways to to buckle and become impossible to traverse.

it's not a huge differential, but it's enough to destroy the precision of a machine. a lot of machines made from metal are designed to tolerate this expansion by forming them at a size where they have the optimal tolerances at "working temperature"

"nuclear bombs" suffer from this same problem, but they have much greater intolerance for temperatures causing the uranium/plutonium metal expanding and shrinking, because they require a precise mating of carefully machined surfaces.

this is another aspect of the bullshit factor of the nuclear bomb narrative.

the "gun" style impactor for triggering fission is not so dangerous in the sense that such swelling won't triggen an unintentional meltdown, but it prevents them from detonating (supposedly) properly because they won't mate neatly unless you have a very big and bulky temperature control system around the device.

the imploder style, also suffers from this problem, because not only do the metallic parts shrink and expand with temperature, so do the explosives, and the trigger mechanisms can be affected also by this change of size.

nah, these are just subjects that are concurrently on my mind at the moment.

the question of whether nuclear detonation can exist in my opinion can be summarised by the fact that nobody bothered to make a small scale version. where are the 10x lighter explosives using plutonium then? if it works? why would you not want this. especially if you are deploying it with a drone.

many scifi writers have even speculated on this subject in fiction but the reality is

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Somepeople are just so desprate to be heared, they creat fantastic stories in the hope someone beliefs them too. Critiquing science, without the slightest understanding what science means really.

I feel on one side bad for those- lost souls. On the other side there are also some who just rather want to beliefe a spectacular lie instead of a unspectacular truth.

What all #conspiracy theories have in common is, that they base on the idea, that big changes in reality need an equal amount of effort to be taken for it to happen. So when there is a big impact like the No-King-Demonstrations in the US, they assume there has to be a big organisation behind it.

it is also true that in many cases, engineers have worked around problems like these by using ceramic components, which have a much lower coefficient of size/density reaction to especially higher temperatures. mechanically, with tight tolerances and precise forming, such devices can have components made out of ceramics to eliminate this problem, and additionally, reduce the amount of effort that needs to be made to control the tolerance of a device that spends much of its life idle, by buffering the thermal transfer into the internal workings.

in many cases, the strain that a ceramic part can tolerate without fracture is comparable to a metallic part, and many designs have switched to using ceramic parts for these components, but it's not a silver bullet because if the device vibrates a lot, momentary force can exceed the breaking strength of the material and render any advantages of temperature tolerance moot.

also, different metals have different thermal conductivity and coefficients of expansion, and sometimes just switching from steel to a different alloy with nickel, chromium, or other metals (eg vanadium, molybdenum) can solve such issues of thermal expansion, and for example titanium has a lot of advantage over steel in some applications because it has a lower coefficient of expansion and a higher elasticity of even the most carefully tempered steel part, with the additional advantage of being corrosion resistant and having a higher melting point.

for similar reasons sometimes it is more effective to switch out steel for aluminium for a part, because weight and thermal conductivity are advantageous, aluminium is a bit like a poor-man's silver in this respect, to the point where it has been substituted, stupidly, by some telecomms companies for copper (due to the cost) resulting in wiring that catastrophically fails with age because aluminium is much easire to oxidise, once it faces any kind of mechanical stress or friction, and once the oxides start to form channels into the metal their conductivity properties fail and start to switch to being capacitative, or even resistive.

I gotta say this is a "conspiracy theory" I've never heard before and it is easily the wildest one of all. beyond flat earth or yellow cube or UAP or Morgellon's.

do you have further sources on this?

I know the book referenced. Brb

This the book.

check my profile about/bio section it's right at the top

took me about 5 hours to read through it and i'm convinced that the whole thing is a government fraud, designed as a political tool (especially when you read about the actual events around the japanese "bombings")

no, fission is caused by the *decay* of unstable isotopes throwing fragments of their nuclei at other nuclei, and HITTING them square on so they trigger a second round, and so on and so forth. has to happen literally millions of times to work as a "bomb"

if that reaction fails to reach sufficient precision of chained collisions, all you are going to get is some rapidly vaporising plutonium/uranium, because the heat release will drive apart the metal. then your target distance just went from a sniper shot at 10km to hit a tennis ball, to a sniper shot from pluto trying to hit a human head.

i don't think you really have actually thought it through because you didn't have any reason to distrust your physics and chemistry teachers in highschool.

fission is simple enough to understand. decay blasts out alpha/beta particles that hit other protons, and this emits heat.

however, the reality is that the heat is the overwhelming content of what is released when a nucleus is broken and the electrons stop holding all those photons inside between them and the nucleus

these photons are repulsive to electrons and with sufficient of them, will break the metallic conductive grid that normally serves to conduct infrared photons and electrons (mainly), and turn the metal into a gas, and when it's a gas, it's thousands if not millions times greater distances between the hypothetical fissioning nuclei and then they still have to hit others to continue this, or otherwise, you know, they just break something far away.

anyway, i can see the picture inside my head about how utterly tenuous the supposed analogy between fission reactions and combustion: spoiler alert: they are entirely different processes, one is molecular, the other requires fragments or whole nuclei to separate from the electron shell (which requires tremendous heat) and then it has to breach the shell of another atom's electrons, and it MUST hit the other nucleus square on or it will just zip past and end up hitting the wall or the ground or flying into space.

combustion, on the other hand, requires a reaction that occurs on the SURFACE of the electron shell between an oxidiser and causes a MOLECULE to undergo "molecular fission" and the difference between a bunch of diesel, which contains like 50 atoms of carbon and hydrogen, or so, at sufficient temperature that it's on the triple point, coming into contact with the oxygen, which is already optimised by your combustion regulation system, valves, cams, timing belts etc, making this go bang, is comparatively easy.

the only wildcard in combustion is access to oxygen, and the heat/and/or/pressure that along with the ratio gives you a bang. this tolerance for excess oxygen or excess combustible reduces the more you increase the heat.

*IN CONTRAST TO* where the solid, cool metallic plutonium must remain in solid form long enough meanwhile all those busted nuclei are blasting out heat so fast... into the rest of the unreacted plutonium, which is going to inherently be extremely volatile and i just can't see how even the most fancy shape charges system or especially not the old gun-style impactor method are going to succeed in getting more than maybe 2-5% of the payload to actually undergo fission before the whole thing is just a dirty bomb.

No. That is not how it works.

The decay of unstable isotopes does result in smaller atoms but the chain reaction doesn't come from those fragments hitting other nuclei. It comes from free neutron that are emitted and absorbed by other nuclei making them unstable (more unstable)

Uranium-235 has a half-life of 703.8 million years. If you add a neutron you get Uranium-236 with a half-life of 23.4 million years, but the neutron also carries enough energy into the nucleus via its momentum to provide the excitation energy needed to split the nucleus in the majority of cases. This releases more neutrons and it continues.

It is important to note that I didn't learn any of this from highschool chemistry or physics teachers, I learned it from David Macaulay's "The Way Things Work" colloquially known as "the mammoth book" the definitive source of technical information for the child and child-like everywhere.

Ok, I may have also studied, chemistry, physics, and quantum mechanics as part of my Engineering Science degree as well. But it's been a while so claiming expertise based on it is a stretch.

credentials are for losers. i know enough to be dangerous, and am always learning more to become more dangerous.

I'll not argue that point. As I said, it doesn't mean much. It was long ago and just because I studied a thing doesn't mean I understood it or retained it.

There is also the issue that studying a thing doesn't make it true. This is currently a crisis in the humanities.

Mises commented on this problem of the "soft" sciences being so pliable to political manipulation and lack of verifiability in his treatise Human Action.

that's the thing. there has been many things i read about years ago that i learned since were completely flawed from their premises. there is just such a party of circumstantial evidence against the idea that there is in fact such a thing as a plutonium explosive mechanism that i'm gonna just do this thing and consider the simple thermodynamics and kinetics to point out those points are extremely flimsy, before you even count the fact that apparently the team at Los Alamos got their bomb to work first time around, without even doing integration tests (and hardly any unit tests)

i don't think nuclear fission is that orderly. sometimes a proton strikes and knocks out another, and doesn't also join. sometimes it breaks off several protons and releases the neutrons, and disrupts the electron configuration due to the change in the nucleus(i) now existing after the break.

in the slow, typical case, yes, it tends to be one proton bumps out one or two protons from the other, and you don't get an inordinate amount of heat.

with stuff like uranium and plutonium and americium etc they have such giant amounts of protons and neutrons in the middle of them that it feasibly could happen that a whole hydrogen atom worth of nucleus gets thrown out, or even bigger sometimes.

assuming that the whole objective of the refinement of decayed uranium to extract the plutonium is because it has a greater tendency to break apart more vigorously, i can say that probably there is a lot of other things that break, but obviously i think the point is that it's more likely to completely shatter (as in, release a lot of hydrogen nuclei, effectively). but that doesn't comport well with the "one proton in two protons out" story that we know is pretty accurate for uranium fission and is quite safe if you don't push it hard and cool it even harder.

idk what to say. the only way i can conceive of an actual explosive effect comnig from shattering nuclei is pretty simple: they turn into hydrogen, and then once the pressure and heat overcomes the containment, it rapidly detonates as a plain old hydrogen explosion.

in my opinion that is the best case scenario. the reality is not quite so clean as that.

the real world decay process of uranium produces huge amounts of iodine 131 and cesium 137. this is a sign that there is a progressive decay process, and when the newly formed structures scoop up their electrons, their boiling point is exceeded and off they go into the atmosphere. iodine is an easy one to see that happening, it just sublimes easily at about ... i forget, 90'C or so

cesium is a much smaller fragment, so already i know that uranium which is like 235 or something, and cesium 137 and iodine 131, we have here what clearly sounds like ... let's see, this can't come out of one uranium, as it would be 268

so this already suggests that even the relatively "calm" fission of uranium breaks off random amount of protons/neutrons from a uranium nucleus in the standard meltdown conditions. i also know a lot of hydrogen forms in the process, this makes sense, this is what you would expect from one proton being bumped out.

anyway, what's my point, oh yes, i was going through the question about how plutonium might hypothetically work if you can contain its heat long enough to keep it solid or at least supercritical while all those protons bash each other up, the ideal result would be hydrogen, which with the heat and then sudden exposure to oxygen would essentially make a fancy hydrogen fire bomb. you can make one of these anyway. just a cylinder of hydrogen, armor the hell out of it and put a magnesium charge in the middle of it. it won't be that much more fancy than a normal carbon based exploder but it will be a lot more impulse and shorter burst, a "pop" instead of a "boom". however both release about equal amounts of heat per mass of reagent in total so likely they also make nasty firestorms.

but either way. i just don't think that plutonium actually makes that much hydrogen that quickly, and even if it did, reliably, a lot of the plutonium is going to be boiled in the process, which is not going to explode because it's too dispersed for those protons to hit them.

the more you think about it, the more obvious it becomes that the last thing that is going to happen with a plutonium meltdown is an orderly production of primarily hydrogen, along with a huge amount of various kinds of radiation particles, heat, and whatnot.

more likely it's going to just boil. as i see it, that's the central reason why it's a hoax, the thermodynamics of the release of all that latent heat can't possibly allow the metal to stay solid, even under the most ideal conditions of implosion (ie, explosions all around it).