The most important part of #value4value is "The Ask."

People are terribly bad at asking.

Ask, and you shall receive.

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(myself included btw, I'm bad at this too)

Thanks for this reminder 🧡

sometimes it is simply necessary

May I please ask for 100 BTC, thank you

Best I can do is 100 sats

tried to make it so you can do better next time but your zip zapper is busted

100 bitcoins sent

I am much more humble, a measly 100,000,000 sats would satisfy my hunger 😂

Changed my 21 sats to 1 . ⚡️>👍 😂

Hey one sat is one sat.

Now that deserves 21⚡️

Ask away

There are some tremendous givers here on Nostr. ⚡️💜🙏

wholesome wisdom

Process of growing up is full of memories that makes you avoid it for many people.

What’s the best way to ask?

I don’t want to be begging… but I need the donations to pay my bills 😂

What’s the sweet spot?

Adam Curry (who pioneered a lot of v4v) talks about this a lot.

If I can summarize it:

It’s not begging because you’re putting something out there to be enjoyed whether it’s a podcast, music, software, etc.

You remind people of that if they like what they are hearing, seeing, using to consider giving what they consider is appropriate.

In some cases there’s a Time, Talent, or Treasure component.

For example with Damus you could offer software development or hosting or sats.

Begging is charity. V4V is reciprocation.

Wikipedia has traumatized me, I would not want the ask inflicted on my worst enemy.

As long as you don't put a mugshot up, it's fine.

Have some unasked for sats then 😎

Zapped. Twice 😅

“If everyone reading this note zapped 10000 sats. We could keep Damus free for years to come.”

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Then create a Damus Media corporation and funnel the sats to them😅

And then don't actually use it to fund the datahosting, but rather other "projects"

We know the feeling. But ask and you shall receive! 🤙

Zap coming up

The fiat generation doesn’t know you have to pay for things that have value and thus they assign no value to anything.

Nostr makes paying for stuff fun again!

May I ask 1 million sats for acquiring a block clock before the next halving

What an humble question 😂

so true... I was never able to fully maintain a free service like https://dnscrypt.pl aside from just a few super fans

This lead to diminishing effort to keep it going and grow.

So, how to ask? gib zap plox?

Send address, I have some #btc socks nobody around here appreciate 🤣

YES 🍆🦪

I think it’s partly because we’ve been raised in a culture that wants people to feel evil for it. If you know what you are looking for, you can see it implied in SO much of what we regularly do and say.

It sucks because I have a serious insecurity about this. It’s like a weird religious sort of guilt that I would ask for money, or charge a higher price, or not just “do it to help this person out.”

Another possible complication is how our modern world is disconnected to the actual making of things. I see it all the time in the art world. There’s a deep abiding resistance to paying someone who “just magically made something appear” with their own hands and brain. Will didn’t just go effortlessly pick his creations off the magical Code Tree. People don’t see the actual work and definitely don’t consider the years it took to be able to produce that work either. This is a topic that I’m still working on defining and exploring in my writing. In all manner of scenarios, people who would pay the asking price for an existing commodity without hesitation, often balk completely at paying a fair price for something created out of thin air and raw materials. You’re lucky if you get the price of your materials covered, often even that goes at a loss.

And that post is an example of that

That’s why is so easy to hedge funds to pick great business and compromise them, most people don’t know how to ask

The problem that avoids us to ask is that when we ask, without realising, we are actually often demanding, which implies not ready to accept a no.

If when I ask, I am genuinely ready to accept a no, I receive many more yes.