I've recently heard a lot of people mention The Fourth Turning. I've already read that book. I've also heard Bitcoiners say "Fix the money, fix the world". Could you give me some book or lecture recommendations that explain this connection?

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Hmm, honestly probably episodes of the show rather than any specific book might be the better option there. A few by Brandon Quittem have covered this specifically and might have references for furhter going down this rabbit hole.

Maybe this is a good one to start with:

https://fountain.fm/episode/N5LRk7aLo55rhvuRgBhv

I agree with nostr:nprofile1qqstnem9g6aqv3tw6vqaneftcj06frns56lj9q470gdww228vysz8hqpzdmhxue69uhkzmr8duh82arcduhx7mn9qyd8wumn8ghj7mn0wd68ytn0wfskuem9wp5kcmpwv3jhvwwc8xj. If you’re not a book worm madman like myself, his suggestion to explore episodes rather than books is a good one!

That aside, I also just couldn't think of a book that hit this topic directly rather than an off hand mention.

I feel ya!

“The Bitcoin Standard”, “The Big Print” or “The Sovereign Individual” - the first two focus more on the monetary issue and how Bitcoin solves it (and more), while the last one focuses a bit more on the independent vs. dependent status of the citizen and how one can ensure to survive and even thrive across the Fourth Turning taking advantage of the freedom tech (think Bitcoin, NOSTR, Meshtastic) and make sure their family is safe and ready.

Personally, I gained also great insight from reading “The Creature from Jekyll Island”, but that will be a hefty and rather upsetting read, as there is only the cause analysis of the problem, but not its effect.

Finally, I’ve only recently stumbled across nostr:nprofile1qqs22afg9k7epyay82slkpap2mquwn9k0cmh3fxk2y8r4nr7wq6xapspzfmhxue69uhhqatjwpkx2urpvuhx2ucpr9mhxue69uhkummnw3ezuargv4ekzmt9vdshgtnfduvp7lu4 work on his website: Simondixon.com and this amazing episode of “Once Bitten Podcast”:

https://fountain.fm/episode/RhAeIYJ0FRB2yQ7BJJ5g

Great list of books there!

If looking to add some fiction - check us out - Mysteries of the Bitcoin Citadel.

Think Mandibles but Bitcoin worked.

When Lauren and Ellie inherit their late uncle’s cabin, they uncover more than family secrets. Discovering a hidden world built on buried clues, Bitcoin, and a mystery decades in the making.

https://fountain.fm/show/RdBny3x8kiOcHY4GwEgD

Awesome! Thank you! I’ll check it out!

Interresting, entered your text into a few LLMs, they returned some suggestions which may or may not be worthwhile, I will investigate further...

An example:

"## Highly Targeted Works that Directly Link the Fourth Turning to Bitcoin

### 1. *Crisis Currency: Bitcoin and the Fourth Turning* – **Dr. Aaron Klein** (2022)

- **Format:** 250‑page monograph (PDF, free on the Institute for Generational Studies website).

- **Focus:** Uses Strauss‑Howe’s generational equations to model Bitcoin’s price cycles, showing a tight correlation between “Crisis‑Era” years (2020‑2030) and Bitcoin’s adoption spikes.

- **Why it’s useful:** Includes quantitative charts that overlay the “Turnings” timeline with Bitcoin hash‑rate growth, providing a data‑driven argument rather than a purely narrative one.

### 2. *The Fourth Turning Meets the Blockchain* – **Lecture Series** by **Prof. Maya Rosenberg** (Harvard History of Technology, 2023)

- **Structure:** Three 45‑minute videos, each with accompanying slide decks.

- **Episode 1:** “Generational Theory and Monetary Collapse” – maps the 1970s oil shock to the emergence of early digital cash concepts.

- **Episode 2:** “Bitcoin as the Crisis‑Era Innovation” – directly cites Strauss‑Howe’s “Crisis” stage and explains why decentralized consensus fits the archetype of a “new institutional order.”

- **Episode 3:** “Future Scenarios: The Post‑Fourth Turning World” – speculative models of a Bitcoin‑dominant monetary system after the crisis resolves.

- **Access:** Harvard Open Learning Initiative (free streaming).

### 3. *Money, Myth, and the Fourth Turning* – **Chapter** in *The Age of Disruption* edited by **Lena M. Gao** (2024)

- **Author:** **Javier Torres**, economist at the Crypto‑Policy Institute.

- **Key points:**

- Treats Bitcoin as a “mythic hero” in the narrative structure of a fourth turning.

- Provides a comparative table of past “money‑fix” moments (e.g., the Gold Standard, Bretton Woods) with Bitcoin’s emergence.

- Offers a concise 12‑page PDF that can be read in under 30 minutes.

### 4. *Generational Cycles, Debt, and Decentralized Money* – **Research Paper** (peer‑reviewed, Journal of Economic History, Vol 89, 2023)

- **Authors:** **Emily Chen**, **Robert Miller**, and **Sanjay Patel**.

- **Highlights:**

- Empirical regression showing that periods identified as “Fourth Turnings” have a statistically significant increase in the creation of alternative monetary systems.

- Uses Bitcoin’s 2017‑2021 price surge as a case study.

- Includes an appendix with a downloadable dataset for further analysis.

### 5. *Fix the Money, Fix the World: A Fourth Turning Manifesto* – **Audio‑Essay** by **Nick Sullivan** (2024)

- **Length:** 22 minutes, hosted on the “Chronicles of Change” podcast.

- **Why listen:**

- Directly quotes Strauss‑Howe (“the crisis will demand a new economic order”) and ties it to the Bitcoin community’s rallying cry.

- Ends with a concrete “action roadmap” that aligns generational activism with Bitcoin adoption milestones.

## How to Use These Resources Effectively

1. **Start with the monograph (Klein)** – it gives a solid theoretical foundation and the data visualizations you can reference in discussions or presentations.

2. **Watch Rosenberg’s lecture series** – the visual slides make the generational‑cycle concepts accessible, especially if you need to explain them to non‑historians.

3. **Read the chapter by Torres** for a quick, narrative‑driven synthesis that’s easy to cite in articles or blog posts.

4. **Dive into the peer‑reviewed paper** if you need academic credibility or want to explore the statistical underpinnings.

5. **Listen to Sullivan’s audio‑essay** for a concise, motivational summary that captures the “fix the money, fix the world” slogan in the fourth‑turning context.

These five items together give you a comprehensive, targeted view of how the Fourth Turning framework is being applied to Bitcoin and the broader “money‑fix” movement."

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