#bitcoin conferences are always full of politicians, statists fiat normies, web3 blockchain shitcoiners, and devs pushing for all kinds of new protocol forks. The worst of the worst, and absolutely zero cypherpunk vibes.
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RIP guns & bitcoin, which turned into Finney Forum and RIP that as well since the creator (Ragnar) now focuses his time on white supremacy rather than btc & xmr
They can make as many conferences as they want with as many politicians as they want. It will continue to be decentralized and peer-to-peer.
The worst part is that many famous bitcoin faces are supporting this crap and even take pictures with these scumbags politicians.
DISGUSTING!
Bro, a huge bitcoin conference was in my city three times now and I never went. Only went to the nostr meetup, that was nice 👍
Calling someone a crypto czar feels weird 😂
David Bailey would have more dignity if he sucked dick for money
This clownshoe invited the same guy who laughed about dumping a Solana premine on retail? Why not invite the whole All In cast while they're at it?
Yes, I've decided I do dare say that all the cypherpunk vibes are had by #Monero people.
The community actively despises politicians and celebrates delistings from centralized exchanges and builds cypherpunk digital cash.
If you're looking for Bitcoiners from 2009 to 2014, that's where you will find them.
You are not wrong. But Monero is inferior money in every way compared to bitcoin, and that's why i will never will buy or use it.
Yeah, we're going to have to agree to disagree on that one. If it's inferior, why exactly would the cypher punks from Bitcoin of 2009 to 2014 be using it? After all, that's what they wanted Bitcoin to be. The Monero community has had the chance to bow down to government pressure and add traceability and has refused and therefore been taken off of centralized exchanges because of their refusal to bow down. The Monero community both holds and spends Monero, so it's not just one or the other.
Unlimited supply (beyond stupid).
Not transparent (huge inflation bug risk).
Regular HARD forks (more risk).
Terrible name/logo and is unlisted on all exchanges (no trojan horse potential).
Bad reputation (users are mostly drug addicts, hardcore criminals).
Most Monero users have no idea what LN is or how to use it for privacy.
Also for some reason half your users are into young girls and have them as their profile picture. 🚩
It's a shitcoin, and it will never catch up to bitcoin.
1. Gold has unlimited inflation and has been money for thousands of years until the telegraph where transactions could happen faster than settlement. Also, we know for a fact that the network can maintain its security since the block reward was done in 2022 and only tail emmission already.
2. Coinbase transactions are visible for audit purposes and range proofs are used to prove you have the monero you say you do and the math is well audited and understood. -- though this might be the most valid point in your list
3. Hard forks are not nearly as big of a deal as bitcoiners make them out to be. Software needs updating on occasion and hardforks accomplish that and keep technical debt to a minimum. Plus, the Monero community is laser focused on making proper peer-to-peer digital cash, and therefore, anything that furthers that goal is well agreed upon. In Bitcoin, there are factions that want it to be digital gold and therefore be expensive to transact. There are factions that want it to be digital cash and cheap to transact. And there are people who want it to be DeFi and have cheap transactions and tons of crap on top of it. Since you guys do not have a vision for where the project is going, of course, any hard fork would be extremely contentious and therefore not advisable.
4. You say it has a terrible name and logo. And yet it means money in Esperanto. And those are both extremely subjective measures depending on who you ask. You say it's a bad thing that it is not listed on exchanges and yet being listed on exchanges has given rise to chain analysis on Bitcoin and KYC. The vast majority of the Monero community is incredibly happy that Monero is not on centralized exchanges because that kills chain analysis of any kind, prevents KYC, and prevents price suppression and manipulation. People who need Monero can get it easily enough.
5. Drug users and hardcore criminals use technology that works. Drug users and hardcore criminals were the first to use cars and things like that as well. Should we not have cars because a drug user or criminal could use it? Maybe we shouldn't have signal or end-to-end encryption either because drug users and criminals use those as well. Drug users don't use Bitcoin anymore because they've found out that it has not fit for purpose and doesn't do what it was advertised as being able to do, which is peer-to-peer digital cash.
6. Lightning is an incredibly centralizing force because most people are not going to run their own lightning nodes and deal with liquidity channels and failing payments. It is far too complicated for the average person to use properly and therefore will be used improperly more often than not.
7. Have you ever been on the internet? Watched anime? Or were around for 2009 Bitcoin? That's just the way the internet fucking is, dude.
8. Subjective based on your own opinion.