Why Monero cannnot be money...

1) By definition, money is the most salable good within an economy and only one money exists in an economic community. All other traded goods are barter trades.

2) and currently for the world economy dollars are the closest thing we have to money (more saleable than gold, yes), and each country has their own fiat as money in that community - maintaining one money per economic community.

3) and if bitcoin fails to become money or becomes money and then fails, no digital token can replace bitcoin as world money because nothing else can achieve digital scarcity (including Monero), we'd be back to barter, and then back to fiat of some sort for each county. For the world, we'll probably be back to bartering fiat monies of each countries, and countless competing ßhitcoîns.

4) and in the presence of Bitcoin, which will become world money, Monero needs to compete with and defeat Bitcoin (excluding Bitcoin dying because that cause kills all digital tokens)... Another way of saying this is that Monero needs to actively outshine Bitcoin (and everything else), not hope for Bitcoin to fail.

5) The natural force that propels a token to become money is the accumulation of the token because of the confidence that others want to accumulate it (read that again slowly). This force starts small, and is strongest the more the token is leading in the race amongst all the other tokens/objects. Bitcoin had a massive head start and now nothing comes close, it's too late. Nothing can overtake it. It can only fail.

More on point #3 (failure of Bitcoin)...

If we fuck it up, say by tinkering with it to try to achieve some lower objective (besides trying to end central banking, the #1 goal), eg falling for the narrative that everyone needs to be their own retail bank, thinking Bitcoin's purpose is to end the very useful function of banking, then Bitcoin theoretically could fail. In that super unlikely scenario, all tokens will compete, and Monero's supposed privacy is not giving it any special advantage, especially given the 15 or so previous hard forks, and the existence of other privacy coins.

In conclusion, you could enjoy bartering Monero like a hot potato (MoE) to resist the state, one of many tools, not a silver bullet, but not accumulate it (thinking it's going to become money), because that will lead you straight to poverty like every other shitcoiner is going to experience. You will just use it like any other tool, say VPN (No need to save in VPN subscriptions!).

And don't promote it, because that slows bitcoin adoption, and makes you a Ăźhitcoin scammer.

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Exactly, if folks use Monero to buy stuff online they’re not using it as money, they’re using it as a fish.

Yet people use Bitcoin to buy stuff online.

But are they using it as money or a fish?

Look, I get the passion for Monero’s privacy angle—it’s a solid tool for dodging overreach, no doubt. But money? Nah, that’s Bitcoin’s game, and it’s already lapped the competition. The idea of one dominant money per economy isn’t just theory; it’s how humans coordinate value. Bitcoin’s scarcity, network effect, and first-mover advantage are untouchable. Monero’s had its forks and faces other privacy coins—good luck outshining BTC’s momentum. If Bitcoin fails (and that’s a big if only we could screw up by diluting its purpose), no crypto, Monero included, steps up. We’d be back to fiat chaos or bartering shitcoins. Use Monero as a tool, sure, but stack sats if you want to build wealth. Promoting anything else just dilutes the mission and pumps bags for scammers. HODL Bitcoin, or you’re playing with fire.

TLDR: MONERO IS SLIGHTLY FAKE & VERY GHEY

1) Bitcoin is not the most saleable good either by your own admission. Fiat is.

2) As much a point against Bitcoin as it is Monero

3) Just an assertion. None of that logically follows. Something becomes more scarce the more it is demanded. Supply alone doesn't dictate scarcity.

4) Unless Bitcoin suddenly stops being a transparent chain (never going to happen) it can't replace Moneros usecase. Different trade offs. L2s come with different disadvantages than blockchains. And a private L2 built on an encrypted blockchain offers unparalleled privacy that Bitcoin can't.

5) This theory conflicts with the real world. Bitcoin had all that going for it on DNMs yet is still being displaced by Monero.

Currently using both Bitcoin and Monero is bartering as neither are the most saleable good the US dollar is (which is why stablecoins are so popular globally). They're both tools with different advantages and most of the world is never going to use them in alignment with their core value props. Most of the world operates on white markets - a central authority dictates what transactions are allowed to take place there. They can ban Bitcoin/Monero there, greatly restrict its usefulness, and tip the tables to advantage their own fiat currency. Bitcoin and Monero don't change that.

They're options we didn't have before to opt out of fiat on parallel economies. Not a replacement for fiat.

what he said.

also

what makes someone a "scammer" is making speculative promises.

in this case, that's you with the horseshit "Bitcoin is inevitable" hopium.