Nostr Web Client

What should we do?

I don't think seeing incremental growth is relevant for nostrs success. Nostr is freedom tech. We need to build so that we're ready for a more adversarial landscape, whenever that crosses a threshold of encroachment.

For nostr I'd expect spikes of growth with declining flatlines in between.

I'd rather have an ark with no users before a flood, than not have an ark to fill once it comes as nobody had seemed interested during a dry spell.

Ultimately we're all here building because we see the dangers of growing centralisation around us. The question to me is will some big events come that spur a big movement onto nostr (I think likely), or will incremental authoritarianism go unnoticed (so far this seems to be the case - eg Tiktok coming under the fold without a big exodus).

So for now, let's build so that we can handle a BIG intake of users, and so that the nostr is newb ready.

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Alex Gleason 2mo ago

Well said. This is how I'd been thinking of it for years. But we're in this weird post-pandemic era now that I'm not sure is gonna play out the same way again.

Gareth Kitchen 2mo ago

The thing is; you ain't going to see any growth when people's first experience is; a firehose of bitcoin/scammy/christian/libertarian stuff that's really in need of moderation... That's pretty much what people see, like it or not. I'd say most, if not all, just say wtf, I'm missing nothing here and never return.

And people that have tried a bit harder say they've been fleeced transferring crypto to sats with even the popular wallets compounding the scammy perception.

It's going to be a difficult base to grow from imho.

Garbage nsec 2mo ago

All of this would make sense if nostr wasn't being propped up by $1m - $2m in monthly subsidies + some investor funds looking for a return. We cannot ignore that money, nor can we ignore the consequences of the taps being turned off.

Alex Gleason 2mo ago

Well compare it to Mastodon. In that setup I just suffered for years making open source software for no money while being bullied online. But I would still go back to that before working at some dumb corporation. Maybe that's just me idk

Garbage nsec 2mo ago

Who says work for a corporation? Selling to people who will pay cash for it is a good alternative to working for people who will pay salary for it.

Regardless nostr needs money coming in. Everything needs money coming in. All these people who are like, yeah, we'll just chill for 5 or 10 years, let those millions flow in to nostr every month while we sit on our porches and post about sovereignty and self-control, it's like, come on.