LOL Monero idiots saying people don't need Tor with Monero 😂
"send XMR to address"
that's what these folks did, and they got arrested:
The finnish guy: https://cointelegraph.com/news/finnish-authorities-traced-monero-vastaamo-hack
The 18 japanese people: https://cointelegraph.com/news/monero-transactions-japanese-authorities-arrest-18-scammers
"Just sending xmr to an address" is also bad advice when the most popular monero wallets (cake wallet and monerujo) are known to have been unwittingly giving a list of nearly all their users' xmr transactions plus your ip address to Chainalysis: https://www.digilol.net/blog/chainanalysis-malicious-xmr.html
It is very easy to leak your personal info, especially your ip address, so do not "just send XMR to address" -- even the Monero website warns against this stupid "just use xmr" meme:
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No one is saying that. It's simply bad opsec. Nothing Monero can fix.
The author of the meme does.
Who is saying that?
It is true though that if you run your own Monero node you have better default network protection because of Dandelion
Whoever made that meme.
What meme?
the one Kanzan posted in this thread: nostr:nevent1qgs0npwnpyvheqz7zuvuwvv9k460c0hyqlturds40hhfn34vufvehwcqyzmedf9x4a7ga33dtjk88s0n0nw9yspkfgdna2xsv23wchfr7jddjx63xau
it puts "use tor" as an example of the gymnastics you have to do to gain financial privacy if you don't use monero
of course, if you're not using tor on monero, it's a lot easier for sybils to collect your ip address and link them to your transactions
Dandelion helps prevent this too, but it's much better with tor
I will say, I'm not surprised the XMR people put "use tor" as a non-monero thing
Monero isn't made to integrate with Tor according to its github
Monero is meant to be used with Tor and i2p.
I'm sure that's why its github explicitly says, "Monero isn't made to integrate with Tor" source: https://github.com/monero-project/monero
Read my other note. Also there have been many discussions about Kovri, a Monero i2p implementation. It has been abandoned for different reasons.
There are follow up projects that seek deeper integration.
> Read my other note
Can you link to it? I don't know which note to look for
Also I doubt that the Github page you are citing is reflecting the current state of understanding.
It's a good thing you bring it up so we can discuss and create more clarity.
Most wallets have Tor and Tor nodes available in the wallet like Cake, Feather, Monerujo, Stack
Fully agree.
Monero should go all-in on anonymity networks or at least make it the default. That will result in less opsec failures.
So far people are still happy with being able to run Monero nodes over anonymous VPN/VPS and there are a couple of points made that scarcity of ipv4 addresses protects the network from sybill attacks via ipv6 , onion or i2p addresses. It's something I read from core devs. Not sure if some of those attacks can be mitigated by now.
LOL yea that meme is not 100% facts, because of course you need to use Tor for either one, but there is a reason why its used so often because it is directionally true. Monero still provides better default privacy without so many hoops to jump through.