A psyop that gets perpetuated on young guys.

1. You gotta fuck a bunch of ho’s.

2. Don’t settle down until you’re 35-40 and you’ve got it out of your system.

The group of successful guys I know with a lot of kids and a good marriage met their wife relatively young. Late teens - early twenties and then were married by 26/27 and had kids before they were 30.

The other group of guys I know who played the field and settled down late tend to have more drama / divorce less kids on average and generally seem less happy.

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One hundred percent. More so for women who settled down late and have trouble conceiving.

Yeah I agree it’s worse for women on average.

Agreed - I see the same thing in my world!

Yes.

Lots of grown men living in a state of suspended adolescence.

Idk if bitcoin fixes that. Religion and returning to the moral standards that built civilization might

People who “played the field” are insecure and damaged. They just hide behind a player mask. In reality they don’t have the courage of building something great. 🫡

Hos are drama. The reason guys that marry earlier have more kids is men think they should marry someone the same age. The psyop is men and women should be equal in marriage. No! Men should be calling the shots in marriage and that happens only when you aren't simping for your wife. Men should expect to marry when they are financially stable. That happens in their 30's. Women should start families in their 20's, the earlier the better. The less dickmiles the better for both of you. Don't have the illusion that your wife should be calling all the shots, and you need to make her happy. If she doesn't want to settle down and be a mother and wife, sorry dude, you married a whore. Don't marry a whore. Dont give your kids a bitchy whore for a mother.

heightens your sense of purpose and focus too

Married at 20, had three kids by the time I was 26, met all my parental responsibilities while I was young, now is FF2K time

The real advice here is to marry for the right reasons (regardless of age), not because you feel pressured to or you just don't want to be lonely.

"man need not be alone" by design. But yes, loading your loneliness feeling into marriage won't work either.

There's a massive advantage to having kids when your young (20s), even if you think you can't afford them.

With hindsight, I would have married a girl 3-5 years younger than me & pumped out 3-5 kids in my 20's. The earlier you meet your partner, the less emotional baggage you both have.

when I was younger my concerns centered mostly on making the correct decision in choosing a spouse, and delaying children long enough to have a successful marriage and supposedly not be as broke. now that we've done that, I can see the value in having kids younger and utilizing more of the time were given to reproduce.

that being said, 20 mins with a 20 year old will make me grateful I married later haha

I agree with the second half but for a different rationale.

Men should spend their 20's and early 30's amassing land(building a house on that land), a way to produce food, a way to gather water, and a way to produce energy. Making yourself into the man your ambition drives you to be. THEN you can create a family to sustain the legacy you have built.

Trying to build a family earlier will curtail your ambition in a effort to make you family comfortable. You won't take risks because it is no longer just your life that depends on your efforts but your wife and children.

If you build your family later your ambition will mean more to you than they do and your matriage will fall apart and your children will resent you.

Late 30's with an active man will be someone that a good woman will want to build a family with.

I hear you. But married at 21 so wife and I could figure it out together. 24 years in - courage begets courage.

I don't mean to invalidate anecdotes. I also got married before my timeline as well. It is more of a plan for success than and ironclad true or false filter. My struggles now are the things I put to the side to pursue my family too early.

Roger that. Good stuff

Wish I’d met my wife earlier. We’d have had *way* more than three kids.

Ive heard a good argument for the opposite of “getting it out of your system” being true, where instead you actually get it INTO your system.

💯 , no heuristic is perfect but this is definitely directionally correct