Still usually some meat with the bread, but balancing macros means a little less red meat for now. Really just for variety over a week. Meats contain dense amounts of minerals along with diverse fats so have to have it, just a balance like everything!
Discussion
Most of the people from our grandparents' generation, who got really old, spent their whole life eating carbs, like bread, pasta, and rice. But the quality and nutrient density was higher, and their eating habits were different.
That's why spelt, rye, and emmer bread are popular, in Germany. Ancient grains.