your wallet should go with you everywhere in nostr like all other nostr data

it's wild that that's so obvious for your contact list, for your profile, yet it's controversial for your pocket change money

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I like the conf you got in Olas (a default nutzap + possibility to integrate our one wallet through NWC) I wish that was the standar

Is that what Olas does when it creates nostr native wallet? That is, my nsec is also the private ket for my wallet?

Do I need to remember the mints though?

Maybe we need a new word to replace "social graph", one that encompasses the financial part of social. NIP-60 means hopping around on Nostr isn't just taking your social chatter with you—it's taking your social spending and your social earning with you too, all in the same technical way.

I dunno what to call that graph though. Maybe "social graph" still works, we just understand it to mean social social chatter + spending + earning + more.

Or maybe "soc-fi graph" instead?

Yeah this is a super power.

I have a design for using this to add eCash wallets into WhatsApp that I need to find some time to play with :)

Absolutely. I can zap from primal on desktop but not via phone app. Haven't taken the time to figure it out.

Something to do with Alby ... probably...

I prefer the NWC model where I just attach my chosen wallet to my client. It works well with both custodial wallets and lightning nodes. If people want the NIP-60 model, I think that should also be an option, but I don't think it should come at the expense of NWC.

no one is saying "at the expense of NWC"

I am also trying to make NWC have a better UX

I've been hearing people lately talking about how NIP-60 "is the future of nostr", and how great it is that your wallet will follow you around from client to client. That sounds like it's being positioned to be the new standard while everything else is old news. If I've misinterpreted the reality of what's being discussed, then that's my error. But it sure does sound like NWC is on its way out based on these conversations.

Personally, I have no interest in a zap wallet that follows you from client to client. I prefer my wallet to be local, and under my control. I also don't want a seperate zap wallet. I just want my wallet to attach to the clients of my choice at my direction. For me, NWC is perfect for that, and works exactly as I want it to.

It is my hope that NIP-60 can exist alongside NWC, giving users more options and flexibility in how they choose to configure zap functionality. There's room for us all. Thank you for clarifying that, at least from your perspective, NWC isn't going anywhere.

This concept is one I’ve always pushed; your device should be like your purse or backpack. Everything you purchase or choose to put in it is yours and yours alone. If you want to give anyone or anything access to something in your purse, that is your decision to agree and consent to.

Imagine if your purse had a privacy clause that anything you put in it belonged to the manufacturer. This is what we do with our messages, our health data, our money and our social life. When did that become OK?

100 percent agree pal