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It turns out that DuckDuckGo is essentially a Bing frontend. Not only that, but there was also an instance where they hid Microsoft trackers in their browser. 💀

Startpage, on the other hand, is literally pulling all its search results from Google, and it's owned by an advertising company. 💀

Neither of them has its own index.

You know who does? Brave Search, or at least they're actively building one. I believe this is the solution we need: new search indexes instead of relying on Big Tech.

So, Brave Search is now the new web search engine on NostrNet.work , it's good enough for most of the people imo.

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Derek Ross 2y ago

I didn't know that about DuckDuckGo. I'm happy I never used it then I would have to tell people I've used Bing 🤣🤣🤣🤣

iefan 🕊️ 2y ago

I would rather use Google than use Bing. Bing is worst 😂

Evan 2y ago

Yeah, that’s a TIL for me, too. 😬

LogicallyMinded 2y ago

#Brave search is quite disappointing actually. The results aren’t much different that the ones returned by #Google or #Bing and there are rarely more than 2 pages of results shown… Try http://metager.org/ instead. #SearchEngine #Tech

iefan 🕊️ 2y ago

I tested metager, it gets most of the result from Yahoo. They're also not building their own index. Brave search isn't great but they are definitely headed to a right direction.

LogicallyMinded 2y ago

Interesting, I’ve been using Brave for quite some time but I had to give up on it because the results seem quite biased (like on Google and Bing).From my experience, it’s good for a quick « how to » search but not to research topics in depth. I know Metager is an aggregator but somehow I’ve found the results to be more diverse. Obviously I like the idea of Brave building their own index but so far it hasn’t been translated in actual benefits. What do you think of presearch? I’ve been using it for some time but stop using it because I’ve read their privacy wasn’t great (although I. Haven’t looked into the specifics).

Bass 2y ago

Thanks for this

Kamo Weasel 2y ago

What do you think is the solution friend? The truth is that there is no bulletproof seeker today 🤔

fc994dc4... 2y ago

https://yacy.net/

joe 2y ago

Are we all just supposed to ignore that brave is a shitcoin project?

iefan 🕊️ 2y ago 💬 3

Yeah that's a big L, but there search engine is very clean.

joe 2y ago

🤦‍♂️

Anti Spasti 2y ago

'Brave's CEO has apologized and promised it will never happen again.'

That is exactly what scammers say when they are caught in the act.

https://au.pcmag.com/suites-1/67206/brave-browser-caught-redirecting-users-through-affiliate-links

Rasha 2y ago

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Good analysis and choice my friend nostr:npub1cmmswlckn82se7f2jeftl6ll4szlc6zzh8hrjyyfm9vm3t2afr7svqlr6f

#Brave

#Nostrnet.work

⚡tephen 2y ago

I always knew there was something fishy about DDG

Hazey 1y ago

Ducky

Justin Nakamoto-San ☑️ 1y ago

They have some kind of pedo/4chan origin too

plebeian ewok 2y ago

They should drop BAT for sats

Tess 2y ago

Or have an option SATS or BAT :)

Hazey 1y ago

BAT is how they get the VC funding

fc994dc4... 2y ago

What about yacy?

https://yacy.net/

ItsMe 2y ago

#YaCy is a good idea, but its results are poor. I hosted a couple of peers to try to get better info in its index, but after a year or two of crawling and indexing sites relevant to my topic, real results were generally buried under pages of garbage results.

nobody 2y ago

Thank you for this. Have been a long time user of dickduckgo but not anymore

fc994dc4... 2y ago

Searx can be a temporary solution, the ultimate that I know of is Yacy.

sommerfeld 2y ago

Not the best take.

So "unproven shitcoiner search engine" > privacy preserving bing frontend?? Lol

Is brave engine ok because they are larping about about being a small indie company fighting Big Tech, when they are just as bad ad the rest and their business model is pumping and dumping their shitcoin?

Use what works well and protects your privacy.

The Bullish ₿itcoiner 2y ago

💀💀💀

21M 2y ago

Never trusted the DuckDuckGo thing, specially since the Russia-Ukraine war…

iefan 🕊️ 2y ago

Brave search also censors stuff tho.

Z2theach 2y ago

What is your recommended browser?

nobody 2y ago

https://www.plagiarismtoday.com/2023/07/18/is-brave-selling-your-site-content-to-train-ais/

Hank Rearden 2y ago

What do you think about SearX?

damien 2y ago

🤯

Son of Vin 🍷 2y ago

I noticed this a while ago when a website of mine won't show up on only those 2 search engines. Wild how easily people trust DDG

Hazey 1y ago

I lost confidence in them when they started "filtering out misinformation"

Tess 2y ago

Thank you @iefan for your contribution to Freedom Tech! 🕊️

Your dedication is priceless! 🌻

I am grateful for you all that are participating in making our world a better place❣️

nobody 2y ago

I love brave! I use it daily most days!

LuisSP 2y ago

you are right, Brave has his own index, yes, but still uses google for some cases.

I do not blame them, it is hard to be good enough to be independent.

geeknik 2y ago

But isn't Brave an advertising company?

richtig & wichtig 2y ago

Instead of bing, you can use ecosia (=results from bing) and do a little bit for the enviroment

cryptowolf 1y ago

been using it for years. Thanks for confirming im not crazy!

GHOST 1y ago

What’s the source for DuckDuckGo?

Islamic Audiobooks Central 1y ago

If you believe them, DDG claim to source results from their own index, plus topic-specific sites and #Bing so apparently it's not just a front-end for Bing.

P.S. I like #Stract engine, #opensource and independent index:

https://stract.com/

(in development)

Justin Nakamoto-San ☑️ 1y ago

Brave has privacy issues, but at least they are not as bad as opera.