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ManiMe 1y ago

nostr:npub1r0rs5q2gk0e3dk3nlc7gnu378ec6cnlenqp8a3cjhyzu6f8k5sgs4sq9ac and nostr:npub1qny3tkh0acurzla8x3zy4nhrjz5zd8l9sy9jys09umwng00manysew95gx are not entirely convinced that a “dedicated onboarding client” is the best way to solve for onboarding … however, social onboarding is different.

- links and QR codes (for inviting friends) MUST land on a web based client, and installing a native client will ALWAYS be more steps for the end user.

- The UX for customizable invites and network discovery of recommended clients, relays, follows, and other stuff should REALLY be a polished flow. Most social clients will not have such a polished flow as a dedicated onboarding client, or at least a “plug and play” wizard that can be added to their own client.

- the most important feature for social onboarding is immediate and private communication between the invited and their advocate inviter. This can be as simple as implementing gift-wrapped direct messaging in the onboard client itself.

nostrmeet.me fulfills all of these needs. it is a “dedicated onboard client” because, despite the hurdle of having “yet another client”, exactly this kind of client IS what is needed for social onboarding.

IMHO

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MichaelJ 1y ago

Will nostrmeet.me be able to integrate with OtherStuff clients?

Suppose I'm working on a code project, and we're collaborating via GitWorkshop. Can I send an invite to friends that directs them to GitWorkshop so they can set up their code workspace?

Likewise, what if I want to invite writers to apps like Habla or Yakihonne. Can I give them a customized invite that points them to long-form writing clients?

I think OtherStuff will become bigger than social media for Nostr, in the long run. We need smooth onboarding for those use cases just as much as we need good notification managers.

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ManiMe 1y ago

Exactly the point I’m making! All clients across the Nostr network will benefit from customizable invites by any social onboarding (enabled) client.

YES, invites by nostrmeet.me will be customizable to “recommend” any Nostr client (by URL or AppStore link) for the new user…

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Uno 1y ago

Yeah, but why would we add one centralized onboarding link to all clients? That's centralization my friend.

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ManiMe 1y ago

No. Social onboarding is a way of leveraging real world webs of trust to strengthen the Nostr network.

I am just a dumb fool crazy enough to put ideas on paper and put a bit of broken code on the web to maybe solve for it.

My open source code is a reference client. The first of hopefully many “social onboarding clients” to come. Also, hopefully, it will evolve into a library (social onboarding wizard) that other (not dedicated) clients can implement.

So no. Social onboarding is not centralized. Just a good idea for Nostr.

It’s all in the article. Read it.

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HoloKat 1y ago

I think all clients should aim for a polished onboarding flow. I also think if you share an invite to your favorite client, it should go to that client and not a dedicated onboarding one. I’ve publicly disagreed with njump usage while everyone supported it. I think onboarding clients just create more friction.

Now, if the onboarding client also happens to be a damn good daily usage one, then by all means recommend that to people.

I’m happy to be proven wrong. I don’t control anything and client devs are free to do their own marketing to prove their point. I’ll be the first to admit I was wrong if it works well.

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Uno 1y ago

I agree 100% Karnage, if you have a friend you think would be interested, show them the client you enjoy and they can choose from there, and clients should strive to make signing up for Nostr easy, but if they don't want to that's their decision too. But having a designated sign up doesn't make any sense to me at all.

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HoloKat 1y ago

Yeah. And I don’t understand why I’m being singled out for not agreeing with ManiMe… I’m a nobody, if you don’t like my opinion just ignore me.

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Uno 1y ago

For real, like what are you the owner of Nostr? 🤣

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HoloKat 1y ago

My pfp is a cat in goggles with a dumb, misspelled name 😆

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ManiMe 1y ago

No. I’m the official nobody. Says so in my profile.

I single you out cause it’s fun to see Kitty Kat chase shiny. 🥳 … and to keep the convo going cause it’s important.

Now my perspective has changed (not a lot… but some) because of your input. Thank you.