I don't recommend any specific coun for privacy. I recommend proper opsec for privacy. If you had proper opsec, you wouldn't need Monero π€‘
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Monero offers default good privacy guarantees to everyone with a good user experience.
There ks no substitute on Bitcoin.
If you needed good privacy
and were actually interested in a honest conversation
you would recognize what Monero provides.
you're only interested in "proving" it isn't necessary and
are def NOT interested in user safety
so you argue from a disingenuous standpoint.
Privacy is not about the coin you use. This is why you don't get it.
What you don't get is that most people are not cypherpunks but we still need something that works for them.
Opsec works for everyone
99% of people don't even understand the concept of opsec. Privacy on bitcoin is for nerds only.
Privacy is everyone's individual responsibility. No amount of hand holding will fix it. Time to learn.
Ok bro. Nobody learned to use PGP but everybody can use signal. Monero is like signal.
+1
to skip to the end of this painfully disingenuous conversation
people who buy non-KYC will generally also have a KYC stack as well.
and this clowns advice of "just be sure to never ever do anything to connect your two stacks" is fucking ridiculous.
particularly when you could
you know
just use monero and not worry about it.
Everyone loves to build their car from scratch themselves before being able to drive one
Wrong we can expect to everyone we interact to have the best opsec but if needed we should use the best that we have.
How long would it take for someone to aquire 10btc over robo sats or whatever opsec you're recommending?
Yeah exactly
the argument has to be either
never ever buy kyc
or
okay buy kyc but never ever mix them with your non-kyc
Neither of which are plausible
or the third option is the meme
You gunna buy a million dollars worth of Monero? I'm not talking about stacking anyways. I'm talking about spending.
How does one get a stack to spend without proper opsec first?
DCA on a non KYC exchange or wash coins in lots of coin joins..
So again, there are people that own 10 bitcoin, how long would that take with the volume on robosats? Last I logged in there 5 grand would have cleared the order book
If you have a million dollars to buy, you're not going to do it on a non KYC exchange. You're going to do it P2P
10 bitcoin is only 1 million dollars recently. You keep ignoring the question. How long would it take to get your stack to a size where you can spend bitcoin with proper opsec? It's gunna take forever to get to that point doing dca over robosats or whatever
I just said if you have a million dollars to drop you would do it p2p. It's a ridiculous hypothetical. Who needs a million dollars to spend on something illegal? If you do, you're probably better off using cash in a suitcase. A million dollars isn't that much in 100 bills.
Go to you bank and ask them to withdraw 1 million dollars in cash ^^
Do you like tainted coins ? Do you want to be linked to criminals activities ? Btw mixing transparent UTXO is useless against Chainanalysis and co
Try to have a good opsec with you credit card so...
Bitcoin is not a coin, it's a program. The question is which one is better for financial privacy, and Monero is clearly better, where all Bitcoin transactions are disclosed, all Monero transactions are anonymous. So having financial privacy with Bitcoin is pretty impossible, but having financial privacy with Monero is by default, you don't need to do something special, everyone can have financial privacy using Monero out of the box, this is a revolution and we should be happy, cheers to freedom, cheers to privacy π₯ π
All the proper opsec in the world can't hide your Bitcoin transactions from it's transparent public ledger
You are just not very bright are you.
By the same logic, no worry guys, use a CBDC, as long as you have good opsec, it'll be fine!!?1111eleven11!
Use telnet instead of SSH bro, you'll have good opsec bro.
Use http, who needs TLS bro, as long as you configure nginx right bro.
Don't encrypt your disk bro, you just need good opsec bro.
Use onchain Bitcoin with good opsec bro, it's just as good as Monero bro.
That's like saying you don't need a screwdriver. Yeah, that's a slight chance you might get the work done with something else, but you'll more than likely screw up, break something and sweat a lot in the process.